Prof.Layman Then you have no one to blame but yourself for being so totally clueless. Your attempts at mining quotes from your limited memory, citing the work of others which you also do not understand, won't help. Example: This is crap, arm waving or not. The conservation laws apply to PP production even when the virtual particles are separated and become particles. Normally, the virtual particle's annihilation produces exactly the same energy as it took to produce them in the first place(and with no photons produced). The creation of the PP required energy from the area it is produced in. If one particle is sucked into an EH, the BH SYSTEM loses the energy required to produce the particle that escapes, no conservation violation involved. IE the Black Hole has hair and will evaporate due to the losses from Hawking radiation. There is no free lunch. The difference between Einstein's Thought Experiments and your random brain farts cannot be successfully described within the limitations of the English language. Einstein sought to illustrate and explain what he KNEW to be true(due to years of study of the work of many physicists and mathematicians who he stood on the shoulders of), you wander lost in a forest unable to even see the individual trees you keep running into, face first. They are not remotely alike. GrumpyPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!