Does God love me? Can I trust Him?

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  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Does God love me? Can I trust Him?

    No matter how bad I am,
    if I believe in Jesus, accepted him as my Savior,
    am I saved eternally?

    I shall not fear doing any evil, because Jesus will pardon me no matter what kind of evil or sin I may do due to temptation or human nature's weaknesses.

    Is Jesus able to violate the cause-and-effect law, cleans my sin and free me, so that the effect of sin is no longer effective on me.
     
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  3. GASHOLE Registered Senior Member

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    Well, you have to know first whether the being exists or not, and of course we could never do that, so there is no use asking that question. Unless your are asking an "if" statement which you are not.
     
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  5. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on which sect of Christianity really. The general answers will be, yes, maybe, depends, or no.
     
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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Why are you asking? Would you trust any of us to tell you the answer?

    If you do something bad, it will always be bad. I don't think we are inherently good or evil, our behavior is within our own power limited only by our neurology.
     
  8. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Give me reasons to believe or not to believe?
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Don't believe because there is no evidence.
     
  10. river Valued Senior Member

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    Let me recommend a book if I may

    It's called

    Not In HIS Image by John Lamb Lash (Isbn# 978-1-931498-92-0 ) from amazon



    Very good book

    " John Lash's Not In His Image presents a fascinating view of meanings in a sacred history long - and wrongly-suppressed. It demands profound correction of what Western civilization has been taught to call religion. It is a book that should be read by everyone "

    - Barbara G Walker, author of The Womens Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets
     
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  11. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    There is the analogy of an elephant taking a bath - Cleans itself nicely in the water and then comes out and throws dirt all over itself. The hygienic aspecst of elephants aside, settling on a turnstile approach to religion of being constantly in a state of purified from sins while in the process of sinning is stabilizing on an inferior level of religious practice ... kind of like undergoing medical treatment while simultaneously maintaining the disease through bad habits
     
  12. wlminex Banned Banned

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    IMPO: "God" exists . . . . the difficulty we ALL have is in understanding God's self-manifestation to his creations, which is (seldom) the exact same manifestation for each of us. Also, IMPO God subtley and separately reveals his creative processes and mechanisms to each individual (soul). It takes extreme effort, expecially if one is not a God-believer (as many scientists seem to be), to realize and to understand, from the subquantum to the extent of the universe, His intent. To your query . . . . I believe God has the intellectual and creative capacity to 'change' or re-direct individuals (souls) . . . but why would he do so? . . . . he leaves that task to each of us. Our main 'task' is to set God as the example toward each of us strives. He is in us and we are within Him. We are some of the parts that constitute the Whole (sum of the parts).
     
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  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    I suggest you delve deeper into your religion

    For instance do you know what the Zaddikim are and their role in Jewish and Christianity
     
  14. wlminex Banned Banned

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    River: I don't adhere to a particular religion. My relationship with God is uniquely His and mine . . . as your's may also be . . .
     
  15. wlminex Banned Banned

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    Was unfamiliar with Zaddikim until your recommendation. Looks reasonable to me . . . I also read the Kabbhala, the Koran, Book of Mormon, and the Bible on occasion . . .
     
  16. river Valued Senior Member

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    Wiminex

    You will find....interesting knowledge to say the least
     
  17. wlminex Banned Banned

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    River: I'll delve a little deeper when I have some time . . .Thanks!
     
  18. arauca Banned Banned

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    1 You are a creation of the master . The Master loves His creation. What business are your involve with the Master, what do you have to offer, that is your ?
    2 You accept him as a savior He will save you at the end . but are you going to follow his teaching.
    3 Once you are with him you are safe.
    4 If you sin voluntary you are like a pig , you clean the pig but she goes back into the mud , Jesus forgive but we should not be abusive.
    5 Remember He said to the woman that was caught in bed fornicating , He said " go and sin no more " That is the effort we have to make
     
  19. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    For elephants, this is hygienic behavior. The dirt is there to make mud, which kills (suffocates) the many parasites in the elephant's skin. Pigs and many other animals use this method too. In poor countries, headlice are treated that way too on humans - by applying a thick layer of mud to the scalp.

    If an ordinary modern human were to bathe, and then roll in the dirt, that would be stupid and unhygienic. But it's not for elephants.

    You'll need to find a different analogy, because best hygienic practices differ from species to species.
     
  20. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Why on earth are you asking this here on the forum? Shouldn't you be asking Jesus?!
     
  21. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    In case you haven't noticed, he's not quick to answer. Unless you're imaginative...





    "I'm ready to tell you my secret...
    I hear dead people..."
     
  22. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It sounds like you are fishing for an excuse to do some things that you consider "evil". I wouldn't worry about a non-existent life form judging you. I would worry about your fellow humans catching you and judging you.
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    hence : "The hygienic aspecst of elephants aside,..."
     

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