Does God have any motives ?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ted Grant II, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    Theologians have designed God with a variety of properties.
    God is just.
    God loves us.
    God has always existed.
    God is perfect
    God is three persons in one
    God has infinite power
    God knows everything
    God is outside of space and time
    God created the Heavens and the Earth
    etc.

    From the Bible, we can also discover that God sometimes
    has regrets (about the flood)
    gets angry (with the Israelites)
    likes a contest (with Satan)
    etc.

    The latter properties are not usually included in the theologian's list.

    Just taking the theologians favorite properties, it seems that for a very long time, God did nothing, then suddenly burst into action and created the Universe with all it's beauty and dirt.

    But given that God is perfect and therefore has no need to get anything, such as food, fun, medicine, warmth etc. it seems that he cannot have any desires, needs, objectives. In short, he cannot have any motives.

    If he has no motives, then it explains why he did nothing before the Big Bang.
    After all, if one is timeless, then one cannot spend time !

    I can see why Superman needs to fight the Joker and rescue Lois Lane
    but I can't see why a perfect Superior Being needs to do anything.
     
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  3. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    Is this where Mrs god comes into the picture?

    "Get off your BLEEP BLEEP BLEEPside and do something

    You might start by fixing that blank infinite space over there"


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    This god is imature .
     
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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    “Is Control controlled by its need to control? Answer: yes.”

    William S. Burroughs
     
  8. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    God is pure love an purely altruistic... an he shares that love by creatin humans so that those who deserve it can experience his love.!!!

    Perty simple realy.!!!
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    So, humans are basically vibrating dildos. Machines created for the purpose of stimulation.
     
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  10. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    God doesn't fight.
     
  11. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Haha... no... dildos dont have free will -- Gods gratest gift to humans.!!!
     
  12. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    Since it appears bad things happen to EVERYBODY

    it seems no cretin human has picked up even one iota of that love

    Pretty stupid really

    I agree

    Dildos without free will are a great gift

    If dildos had free will they may not want to go where humans want to put them

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  13. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I do beleive you "get-it":::

    Hell will be filled wit humans an Heaven will be filled wit dildoes.!!!
     
  14. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    Hell seems to be the best option

    Hope god in heaven is happy with the company of 7 billion soulless dildos and finds a use for them all

    How would any dildo like to be his favourite?

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  15. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    When a true Christan asks me whare i plan to go after i die... i say im goin to hell cause im a good person an dont deserve to be in heaven for eternity wit people like you.!!!
     
  16. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    What of those God created undeserving, and why would he create them?

    If they are undeserving, it is God's fault. Right?

    And if all knowing, God would have intentionally created undeserving souls. Right?

    Regards
    DL
     
  17. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Except that... God created everbody equal... i thout everbody knew that.!!!

    No... the instant sperms get into the egge they combine an the mixture has free will which manifests into a perfect soul.!!!
    If the person goes aganst Gods wishes an chooses to sin its ther own fault.!!!

    This stuff is all in the Holey Bible for those who know how to discern properly.!!!

    PS:::

    As comformation... no true Christan in this forum disputes my revelations.!!!
     
  18. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    If equal, then we should all end the same way. The abominations linked show how unequal we all begin.



    Do you see the abominations shown in that link as choosing to be abominations?

    Since God is said to be unknowable and unfathomable, how can we know God's wishes.

    Further, Yahweh is shown to be a genocidal son murdering prick. Should we really follow the wishes of such a prick?

    As to your notions of the free will we do not have. Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.
    That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."

    But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.

    If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin. That being the case, for God to punish us for following the instincts and natures he put in us would be quite wrong.

    There are no true Christians as Jesus said that true Christians would be able to do all he did and more.

    Who have you seen do the things as the lies in the bible say Jesus did?

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    Funny bout that

    If we are all equal I should know what you know

    ie god created everybody equal

    or

    you should be unaware of that nugget of info like me

    Further

    Last time I looked in the mirror I didn't look like Hugh Jackman

    When I got my bank statement I did have more than a drunken bum

    But not as much as Richard Branson

    I also own a motorcycle not jet

    I couldn't help noticing when I woke up Melanija Knavs (now Trump) wasn't in the bed

    Equal?

    Sure we are all clones

    Pity the mixture isn't / wasn't given foresight as to their up coming life

    I'm sure many wouldn't even bother being born

    Heaven looks a great option

    Hold the Pearly Gates lord I'm a coming now


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  20. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    EVERYTHING is in the bible

    Just as EVERYTHING is in the Tarot cards

    if you know how to discern properly

    Well that settles EVERYTHING

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  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    All the deformities/illnesses in that video are of the devil an i refuse to watch it.!!!
    An besides... all those horrors are caused by the sins of the parents/gran-parents/etc...

    I dont sin... but even if i did... as a true Christan i woud be forgiven by God an reborned as pure as snow.!!!

    Seek an ye shall find.!!!

    To say or thank that is an unforgivable sin... so......

    Simply put::: The livin God is proof in itself that God is not culpable.!!!

    Let me esplain it this way::: If you didnt have free will you woud be just as likely to eat dirt insted of pie for supper.!!!
    Me... i jus finished eatin some apple/rhubarb pie for supper Cause I Chose To... see what i mean.!!!

    I sined when i was young but i quit... for example::: I quit masturbatin when i was 12... so.......

    Wit my own eyes i saw a preecher make a boys short leg grow as long as his other leg... i saw a travelin preecher raise the dead... ive seen an herd people speek in gibberish... ive seen blinded people run around the church wit-out trippin or bumpin into anythang... ive seen an herd of people who handle posin an eat snakes wit no ill effect... an not to brag... but i personaly saved a girlfrind from hell... so.......

    Thats all non-sinse in Gods eyes as you woud know if you only beleived as i do.!!!


    Grate post... i can feel the presents of the Holey Gost in the forum.!!!


    Thats true... but God is in charge of one an the Devil is in charge of the other.!!!

    Learn which is which an you will be saved.!!!

    You welcome... an no pressure... but my open invitation to join my church "NACA" is for everbody.!!!
     
  22. Michael 345 Next for NT Anzac Day 2018 Valued Senior Member

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    Mixing rhubarb with the pure and holy apple

    is a unforgivable sin

    Ye shall rot in hell

    The Church of the Holy Ordained Apple of Knowledge

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  23. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Thats a wonderful belief... which has earned you a personal invitation to join my church... eh.!!!
     

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