Does God approve of slavery?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by James R, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    In order to answer any of those questions, there are some little details that you ignore, not because you never heard about them, but because you were reading and reading several biblical passages and never understood them.

    For example. the biblical god, indeed, gave rules about slavery. Take note there are also specific rules when an individual "voluntarily" wants to be a slave.

    Note as well, that the people believing in the biblical god, they also have rules to treat slaves.

    From here, you must put in your mind, that the Israelite was not the same as other tribes or nations.

    Other tribes and nations did not respect the integrity of their slaves, many of those nations treated slaves as animals not as persons.

    The people in Israel were to give respect to the integrity of the slave. Their laws came from a god, not from a human like the other nations.

    Hope you are starting to understand the situation here.

    Then, being a slave in Israel was not a bad idea after all. And many foreign people and Israelites themselves became slaves by their own will.

    Same treatment was given by the Israelite to their slaves in times of the apostles, of course, under the new foreign rulers, such respect perhaps was lost, and even in ancient Israel many might have ignored in purpose the laws of God in reference to slaves.

    Point is that from God's part, acquiring slaves by force after a conflict, or buying them or accepting them, slaves were to be respected physically and emotionally. There are also rules in case the slave is a rebel. But such is not injustice, a same or worst punishment was to be given to the son of the master if this son was disobedient (rebel) as well.

    Then, under the conditions provided by God, of course slavery can not only be considered but in many cases suggested.*

    (*Several years ago, on TV, it was a special program revealing slavery in the south of this country. The cameras showed farms where people escaping from the law, decided to become slaves and found protection from the landlords of those territories. It was not a bad deal for them, they avoided jail, they had food, shelter, peace, and even security, something much better than been behind bars. It remind me the biblical practice of slavery).
     
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  3. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    I could be wrong.... I often am.....
    but I have the impression that Lucifer Satan may well be compared to a psychologist who has an experiment in mind......
    and he goes to YHWH for permission??????

    Luke 22:31
    "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:"

    Something somewhat similar can be found in the first chapter of Job.


    Job 1:9 "Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
    Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
    But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
    And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD."


    Although it is clear that slavery was permitted or allowed by YHWH in both the Jewish as well as in the Christian Scriptures..... there is a difference between something being the full fledged will of the Creator vs something simply being permitted or allowed.
     
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  5. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Let's compare two or three possibly related phenomena......
    let's assume that Art Professor and near death experiencer Howard Storm did a competent and honest job of
    relaying on to his readers what he believes that he was shown regarding The Holocaust?

    If... Howard Storm did a good job of passing on what he was shown from what may come to be understood as a more comprehensive source of information then:

    1. Did The Holocaust happen? Yes

    2. Was The Holocaust the will of G0d? No

    Why would not God arrange a universe in which God would always get what God wanted????????

    Perhaps because God might want to share with us humans at least some degree of Freedom of choice?????
     
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