Does Bottled Water Burst When Freezing?

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  1. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I wasn't sure where to ask this but if you took a whole thing of bottled water and put it in your trunk during winter would it eventually burst because of the constant freezing going on? Would it freeze?
     
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  3. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    depends how much air is in the top of the bottle
     
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  5. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I've actually done this (by accident, repeatedly) most plastic bottles can take the pressure and will simply deform but not crack open, glass bottles will be found broken and glued by ice to the bottom of the cars floor.
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    im sorry, by burst i thought you were asking would the lid pop off and the ice expand out of the bottle. THIS has happened to me a few times when i have tried to freeze bottles of water. However i highly doubt that plastic would break before the lid releaced if thats what your asking. Again it comes down to how much air is in the bottle though, if there IS some air then it will just take up that room first
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on where you keep your car. If it is always located inside of a heated garage and you don't drive around at all it won't freeze at all.

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  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Water expands when it freezes. That creates pressure inside a closed bottle. If the bottle is strong or can deform enough, it might not burst. If it isn't strong enough, it will burst.
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Tree trunks, Mr Owl?
     
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Why don't you put it in the freezer and see what happens?? The test of the pudding..
     
  12. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    I have actually frozen bottled water. Make sure there is some space at the top.
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Obviously, if you allow room for the expansion there is no problem.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Since we are discussing freezers........
    (we are cutting edge in the chem section)

    If you had a vey powerful freezer, one that froze things to nearly
    absolute zero, would the water ice from your super ice-box, when added to your
    drink of pepsi, make it
    1. No cooler than a standard ice cube?
    2. A little cooler than a standard ice cube?
    3. Much cooler than a standard ice cube?
     
  15. draqon Banned Banned

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    does frozen heart burst when it is given love back anew?
     
  16. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    People freeze bottled water all the time to take to work in a hot place. I know one or two who do it in the winter too, but I don't know why. Just be sure it's a plastic bottle.
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Lock in answer 3, assuming your super-cool ice cube was normal ice-cube size.

    Heat flows from hot objects to cold. So, your pepsi cools by heat flowing from the pepsi to the ice cube, which is at a lower temperature. As the ice in the cube heats to zero degrees Celcius, it starts to melt, which absorbs even more energy.

    A normal ice cube may be a few degrees below zero. If you have one hundreds of degrees below zero, it would absorb more heat from the drink. The most likely outcome would be to freeze your pepsi solid.
     
  18. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    ....freeze your pepsi solid.
    Thanks. I like the sound of that.
    Would make a good party trick.
     
  19. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    A better question would be what happens to the water if you super freeze it, does it still break the bottle?

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  20. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I can't make head or tail of this.
    There is a Ih and no I.
    IV is missing.
    What do the Roman numerals stand for?


    As regards ice, isn't it the only substance which expands as it freezes, meaning ice floats rather than sinks?

    Actually, is it the only substance that does this?
     
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  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Geez, you could just click on the images properties, copy-pasted the address into your browser and gone to the web site, but yes that image only show part of the picture:

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  22. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I and IV are still missing.
    Now in addition to Ih there is an Ic.

    What is this graph about?
    You can't just post a graph with no key and expect people to investigate.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Click it!
     

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