Does anyone really want to exist forever?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by fess, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    So suppose we did learn how to live forever. That would mean everyone could do this and also every living being. So we would be living with coronavirus and other diseases for all time and going through repeated bouts of extreme discomfort (to put it mildly) with no exit strategy.

    The diseases we have are mostly other living organisms that are either symbiotic or parasitic with us.

    I wonder who would come up with the idea of somehow putting an end to this situation.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The stack records everything, It is a copy of the mind, including all its knowledge and memories of all experiences. The one problem may be the new sleeve, which is physically different from the original you. Your mind has to adjust to the functions and limitations of your new sleeve each time you switch. Which is OK if your sleeve is an upgrade from the old one, but can be frustrating when your new sleeve is inadequate for your preferred lifestyle.

    And over time as a person has switched sleeves many times, complications of conflicting memories may cause a form of schizophrenia. Immortality almost certainly results in madness, more or less the exact opposite of mental deprivation. Too much information is just as bad as not enough information.
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, a good and healthy sleeve costs a lots of money as does an artificial bionic sleeve.

    A virus already practices a form of immortality as long as it can find a new sleeve (cell) to copy itself.
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    In Le Guin's story being immortal does not bequeath powers of regeneration - so injuries accumulate, eventually transforming the afflicted into something resembling a large diamond.
     
  8. river

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    Disagree

    It is a copy of the Brain not the Mind .

    The Mind is greater than the sum of the Brains parts .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    True, but the stack remembers everything and when implanted will fundamentally still represent the memories of the owner and his/her mental emotional responses.
    But you are right, in the series it is established that after using many sleeves (different bodies), the mind does begin to develop confusing responses which are duly recorded by the stack. Each sleeve has its own physical memories and if the previous sleeve was an athlete and the stack gets replaced into a less than athletic sleeve, there will obviously be frustrations.
     
  10. river

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    There is soul .
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That's nothing more then a religiously inspired myth.
    There is no soul...there is no evidence for a soul.
     

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