Lou As far as these poor impoverished kids being stuck unable to afford anything better, have you checked out the prices for these things? I have to agree with an earlier post that said for what they spend for these (largely) cosmetic add-ons, they could afford a better car. What makes it even worse is that the money they spend IS usually on the cosmetic stuff. "Yeah! A 6-inch diameter light-up tachometer is far more important than sway bars to keep the thing on the road!" Very rarely do we meet a ricer who, by whatever means, has actually built (or had built) a really slick machine with good handling, torque in all the right places, etc. And yet they still come around looking for races. I don't mind the NOS systems. You do what you have to to leave the other guy behind. We choose not to go NOS on the Camaro at this point, but we may do it for overkill in the Plymouth.