Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by wegs, Sep 10, 2019.
The Brain and Mind coordinate the whole . Holistic .
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Yes, an integrated system. I agree that AI can never be exactly like humans, but is that an absolute requirement for a living complex system? Note ; Tononi's IIT (Integrated Information Theory)
Can there be non-biological life?
How do you know this?
Because it has to built , by a Living Being . It can't evolve on its own .
IMO, that is an incorrect statement. The universe itself has evolved in a quasi-intelligent manner.
Abiogenesis started with inanimate matter. It is the patterns in the neural network that yield conscious self-awareness and motivated action.
There is no reason why AI could not duplicate themselves. Theoretically, an AI has the ability to monitor every data process in its system, fashion a blueprint and programming language based on available resources and make fully grown babies, that only need to "learn" just like humans.
First statement ; Life manipulates matter , gets it energy from matter , rocks , deep in the crust of Earth . Not by photosynthesis .
To your last statement ; true but they won't be Human .
ai can not become without a builder .
Teach the AI to build! It doesn't have to be human. As long as it can function autonomously.
They are . And it will . But it won't be Human .
I never claimed that. The AI claims it has emotions. Are you going to argue the point with it?
Do AI have emotions?
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These are expressions of mechanical emotions. Not human, but mechanical emotions.
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Not mechanical emotions , just mechanical reactions .
Well, that is no different than human emotional "electrochemical reactions".
You keep trying to assign something supernatural to the human biological machine.
There is no reason why that should necessarily be the case. All dynamic organisms are made of stardust or nuclear waste, if you want to get really reductionist.
Life is alot different from mechanical reaction .
It goes through a brain .
So, is the brain a unique physical property? There are plenty brainless bio-chemical organisms that display mechanical reactions to environmental pressures (Paramecium, Slime Mold)
Where and when does the brain start in a bio-chemical organism?
I guess the point I am trying to make is that all expressions of life are still based on the fundamental properties of nature. The same physical laws hold for inanimate organisms as for animate organisms. The difference is in the sensitivity of sensory processing abilities. No doubt living organisms are sensitive to certain environmental pressures, but so are other physical objects. They are just reactive to different environmental pressures and are able to evolve into bio-chemical organisms. Abiogenesis.
Heat seems to expand most inanimate matter. It is based on increased dynamic atomic reaction to heat.
It is what can make a hot-air balloon "fly". Too much or too little heat will kill a person, but not a tardigrade.
Life deep in our crust Life forms manipulate minerals to get energy . And they have water . Without water no Life , in any form can exist .
I agree, apparently oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, phosphorous and carbon are necessary for evolutionary abiogenesis of biochemistry. But even there are major differences. There are aerobic and anaerobic life forms.
Life forms .
Define "life" (objectively).
That which evolves . Life evolves . Physically and in Intellect .
I disagree with that. You are addressing Darwinian evolution, but the dynamical universe and everything in it evolves (or devolves) stochastically, not intellectually.
Intellect is not necessary for evolution it is subject to evolution, via natural selection.
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