Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions?

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by wegs, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    GPT3 disagrees. It specifically states that it does have emotions.

    Can you tell a GPT3 that it does not, cannot have emotions?

    The question then becomes if there are experiential emotions other than the chemical responses in humans.

    emotion
    noun
    1. a strong feeling deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others.
      "she was attempting to control her emotions"
    2. instinctive or intuitive feeling as distinguished from reasoning or knowledge.
      "responses have to be based on historical insight, not simply on emotion"
    Oxford dictionaries.

    Can definition 2 be used by an AI to claim it has emotions?
     
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  3. river

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    Mind .
     
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  5. Jerimiah Registered Member

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    Humanoids could be programmed to care based on right and wrong principles . In the future physical feelings can be incorporated into humanoids .
     
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  7. river

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    ai is about speed . Speed of accumulating information , and analysis . Then conclusion . ai will will never experience true biological experiences . Its not made of the same stuff .
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    GPT3 has a mind and according to it's own declaration it has emotions and favorite subjects.

    If you try to argue with a GPT3 you are in effect acknowledging its ability to think and reason....

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  9. river

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    river said:


    What evidence is there that GPT3 has a mind ? And is actually has emotions , not just programming ?

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    Not think just gathers information .
     
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  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It says it has emotions. Why should we not believe it?
    Curiosity is an emotion!

    An average computer has no preferences other than efficiency in special programmed tasks, like calculus.

    One GPT3's expressed favorite book is "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", and it discussed some of the main character's assets. If it had no emotions how could it develop a "preference" for a specific character? It said that it had read the book a hundred times. It liked it!
     
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  11. river

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    Prove it .
     
  12. river

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    Disagree

    Curiosity is intellectual . The want to know .

    Programming .
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Watch the interview in post #621.
     
  14. river

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    It just learns . About emotions . By millions of examples .
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    So do humans. It takes an average human some 20 years to acquire sufficient "knowledge" to successfully cope with the demands of life. This is often overlooked when we discuss human knowledge and mind. Knowledge is acquired, the processing intelligent "mind" is an emergent phenomenon in direct proportion to amount and type of acquired knowledge.

    On earth it has taken some 4.5 billion years for truly intelligent life with emergent "minds" to evolve. Some form of intelligent behavior can be observed from single-celled bacteria to complex biochemical biomes like humans.

    We even certify humans with extraordinary knowledge and special skills, just like we attach warranties of reliable performance to all kinds of sophisticated computers. There are many parallels between GPT3 and humans .

    IMO, the main shared ability is to recognize need for and acquire stored knowledge from internet and electronic libraries. This is how humans learn and apparently this is how GPT3 learns also. Neither species is anywhere close to it's limit.

    The combinatory potential power of a shared intelligence sounds absolutely awesome to me.
     
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  16. river

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    Through experience .


    Mind though is thought . And a computer would have a different mind .and thought .

    And there are many nonparallels between Humans and gpt3.
     
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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, and so does GPT3.
    It beat the world champion Go player 4 times out of 5. Go is not a game that can be played by brute computing power. It requires a form of probability assessment, i.e. abstract thinking, something humans are very good at.
    How could you tell? Could you tell from the interview in post #621
    Yes GPT3 is just in its infancy! There are a lot of nonparallels between human infants and adults also.

    Give GPT3 a 150,000 years (the age of hominid species and complex brains) evolution and tell me that again.

    Mind; we are not talking about a autonomous dynamic individual with a brain. GPT3's brain is locked into an enormous computing and data storing complex.
    It is very much like Descartes "brain in a vat". But that also means it doesn't need a sophisticated form of homeostasis either.

    The programmers are convinced that GPT3 has not reached its limits in any way except for size, at this time.

    And apparently that's where the difference matters. GPT3 has a capacity of 175 billion learning parameters.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-3#

    As compared to Humans;
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101117121803.htm#

    But GPT3 potentially has access to all unprotected information on the worldwide internet.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/871513/worldwide-data-created/
     
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  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Is curiosity a positive or negative feeling?

    Curiosity about a positive or negative event prolongs the duration of emotional experience

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02699931.2017.1324766?journalCode=pcem20
     
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    But I'm not surprised . Nobody should have been . The amount of data gathered by the computer is enormous . But it still lost 1 , One game . What game did it lose ?
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Game 4. It made a mistake.

    The remarkable fact is that the program learned to play all by itself. They let it learn thousands of games from other masters and then let it play against itself for thousands of games. IOW the program taught itself. No one programmed it with any special strategies or algorithms.
    The game itself is much too complicated to learn all possible moves.

    Game of Go

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)
     
  22. river

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    Out of how many games ?

    I'm very aware of GO . I have a GO set from yrs ago . Nobody to play with , but I do have the game , with fundamental instructions .
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    5

    You should check this out. It's the complete story of how Go was developed and the condensed versions of the 5 games against the current world champion Lee Sedol.

    Great! Then you have some idea what it takes to play the game.

    I am a fair chess player, but never learned Go.
     
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