Do you have to win every argument?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by akoreamerican, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    You should be pretty smart by now.
     
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    I have always understood debate to be purely logical without emotions. Arguments, I would say, are debates disturbed by emotions, but if we do not know that the opponent is allowing his or her emotions to influence him or her, then I find it safe to use the words interchangeably
     
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    Reason is though the essence of logic .

    It is the information that governs reason and hence leads to logic .

    Do you have to win every argument no .
     
  9. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    In theory. But it's not really about logic itself, but about the the effective application of logic to a given subject-matter. It's a contest; the objective is to win points (or trophies, or elections), so it's impossible to keep emotion completely out of a debate. You're supposed to do your best, not because you're passionate about the specific content, but because you want to win.

    Without emotion, there is no argument. If you don't care about the outcome, you don't waste energy on arguing. You do know that the same is true of your opponent. You each want something different - how badly you want it may be unequal, but wanting is a given. An argument is a verbal struggle to get your own way.
    This means that it's possible for there to be a winner and a loser, just as in a debate (only it matters more) but it's also possible for neither or both parties to win: you can reach an impasse or a compromise, or turn to a neutral third party for arbitration, or agree to on a hitherto unconsidered alternative solution.
     
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    I never seek to win an argument, just be heard. And, at least, understood. It's refreshing when you can have a heated debate, and remain civil. Learning something along the way is always a plus.

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