Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by jpappl, Jul 16, 2009.
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So who were you referring to ?
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Demanded. Nothing happened. I know that, too.
What do you mean "demand the presence of god" ? You mean will him into existence ?
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How can you not believe in dinosaurs? That's like not believing in gravity, or in the moon.
A creationist that believes we evolved and also accepts dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago.
What a tangled web you have spun for yourself.
stop the drama.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and just make a point; don't confuse ID with creationism. The latter is absurd and based on nothing, the former is speculation that is based on observation.
but what's the relation between ID and creationism?
Oh please, it's the exact same thing.
Creationism is a form of ID
The problem is that Creationism is too specific; all of the details it specifices lacks justification
ID is very broad: intelligence exists, therefore intelligence could have had a hand in something. It makes no other assertions.
from the standpoint of personal recognition...yeah.
How is that different from plain old fantasy ?
I'm not buying it. ID was just a PR move by the creationists.
Says who ?
Probably, but that's not what I'm talking about; I'm just talking about ID as speculation, that intelligence had a hand in the fine tuning of our universe or in human evolution. That's it. And yes it's just speculation; it's just not ridiculous to me.
I don't believe you. Perhaps you should try to convince me.
The wording is just different. In all other aspects it's exactly the same thing. It's more deceptive, that's the only difference.
Edit: Besides, I thought you were an atheist ?
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