Do we roll the dice with salvation?

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  1. stanleyg Cranky old fool Registered Senior Member

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    Do we roll the dice with salvation and wager that salvation is a myth or do we play it safe to cast our lots on Christ? If we were to roll and lose, then the wager would be extremely costly. Here, take the dice! It's your roll.
     
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  3. the preacher fur is loose 666 Registered Senior Member

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    boring, just pascal's wager again.

    as there are approximately 2,500 http://www.godchecker.com/ the chance of getting the right one with your wager is 1 in 2,500.
    the calvanist believe in predestination, which means it matters not what you choose, those that get chosen, is a purely random choice of a gods.
    your wager also leaves out the possiblity that the true god and the true theology, are not known at this time.
    this god could be one that punishes good and rewards evil.

    and do you seriously believe that your god would be fooled by insincerity, thus you would gain nothing.

    "Thus Pascal's call for us not to consider the evidence but to simply believe on prudential grounds fails" J.L. Mackie
     
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  5. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    You forgot the far more likely option that there is no intelligent creator.

    Plus, the notion of judgement and an afterlife is to me far more rediculous than even the notion of an intelligent creator. Why do idiots think they both go hand in hand?
     
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  7. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    What if faith counts for nothing and you get into heaven on the basis of how much good you do, or on some other more random criteria (eg yearly pasta consumption)?
     
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  8. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Or what if atheism is the ticket?
     
  9. marv Just a dumb hillbilly... Registered Senior Member

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    As an atheist I expect nothing - therefore I will not be disappointed.
     
  10. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    stanley,

    No problem. It is certain that salvation is nonsense. No need to gamble.
     
  11. FieryIce Tic Toc, World in Cobalt Blue Registered Senior Member

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    There are no dice.
     
  12. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Nice.
     
  13. Lawdog Digging up old bones Registered Senior Member

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    There is no entering Heaven merely on the basis of Faith.

    Even the Devils believe....and they tremble.
     
  14. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    I eat loads of pasta, fingers crossed there's a place next to The Flying Spaghetti Monster waiting for me when I die!
     
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  16. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I had been Christian before, I admitted that I just "bet" that Jesus "could be" true so that I go to heaven.

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  17. stanleyg Cranky old fool Registered Senior Member

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    How can you be so certain when you haven't crossed over to find out?

    Pro13 [20] He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.
     
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  18. stanleyg Cranky old fool Registered Senior Member

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    If faith counts for nothing then Christ would have lied to the woman about her faith making her whole.

    Matt.9 [22] But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour.
     
  19. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    Neither did you.
    You are still alive, your life after death hasn't begun yet. You don't actually know whether the Christian claims of salvation are true or not. One can find out only after death.
     
  20. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Because the basis of the idea is entirely grounded in fantasy.
     
  21. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    stanleyg edited his post ...
     
  22. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Stanley,

    Then follow your own advice. There is no wisdom in your belief that fantasy is truth.
     
  23. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    "Salvation" isn't the only game in town.
     

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