Do Films/movies alter culture?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Captain_Crunch, Jul 26, 2002.

  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    You mean Gene Roddenberry, the show's creator. Not William Shatner, the star. It was Roddenberry who came up with all those ideas.

    Could you please give us a link to the source of that so-called "fact"? Surely you understand that while life imitates art, the opposite is also true.

    This is not the USSR. Nobody's stopping you from leaving if you don't like it here. How could you possibly stay and raise children in the USA if you think it's such a bad place? Weren't they subject to all those evil influences?

    Oh wait, they were. I remember you told us that one of your sons grew up to be a paid professional killer. He must have learned that from the movies.

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    Anyway, I repeat what I said to Green Boy: Life does indeed imitate art, but art also imitates life.

    The majority of the violence on earth is perpetrated by governments, not by individuals. Governments are not influenced very much by movies. They tend to be more influenced by religions.

    So if you want to end violence, let's outlaw religion.
     
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  3. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    really?

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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    Government is made up by people , and this nation is the most violent in the last 50 years, lately the people are promoting violence though games , music movie and even the language have become very abusive and vulgar . Yes one of my sons was influenced and joined the Navy. Do I regret , yes, can I do any thing no, because thi influence of atheism in the schools ( public ). There is no body holding me here . I am adaptive , I will. bitch like you do, I did not munch from the government like you
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    I could not let you go , that easy , you mentioned outlaw religion.
    In my experience a few years with penitentiary. I can tell you positively , the Godless young people cause problem in jail , people converted to any faith are people are passive and don't cause disturbance. So if I extrapolate the microcosm to the outside . I can say as America is becoming more Godless we are going to see more violence ,
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think movies substantially alter the culture. For one thing not enough people see them. If you include TV, and video games the numbers go up but "alter" would be too strong a word in my opinion.

    It's just entertainment. It is probably more accurate to say that movies reflect the culture. If someone thinks the U.S. is too violent because of the movies just pick another country where the same movies are seen and where the violence level is lower. You'll see that there is little to not connection between movies and violence.

    Also, there aren't many violent movies in the Middle East but there is plenty of violence.

    When people worry about these things it's generally a red herring. There are other much more important things to worry about.

    Having the freedom to watch whatever you want to watch and not having to watch anything that doesn't appeal to you is a much more important concept.
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    I wonder what is the reason to introduce this police cars into a civilian society
    http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/why-hottest-police-car-bomb-proof-military-suv-184502872.html
     
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    Can you tell me were is the training ground for the youth beside school ? How many hours per day the young people spend in front on movie on TV and games on computers ?
     
  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What is your argument exactly? Are societies less violent that don't have movies and TV? Do you have any evidence that kids that play violent video games are more violent than kids that don't play violent games? Or do you just come to conclusions without any facts just because it sounds good to you?
     
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  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    Here is the classical excuse " Do you have an evidence that kids that play violent video"

    Sid you read the article I posted on post # 26 ? In the 1950 there were no mass shutters in schools , now day this is not uncommon tho hear a gunman killing inicent bystanders.
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    And the only thing you can think of that is different are the movies?
     
  15. arauca Banned Banned

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    Who inspires the individual , the commercials on TV what to eat , how to dress what car should you drive , how sexy the woman should look , the fantasy of luxurious loves of actors , what more do you want me to tell you, I am sure you know things just as I know
     
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    When I was a kid there were cowboy movies and "horror" movies. We even played with toy guns. No one went out and shot people after they grew up just because they played with toy guns as a kid.

    I can see why parents might limit movies, TV, video games for their kids but either way the bigger problem is that it's making them fat and potentially lazy by just sitting in front of a TV. Violence, in my opinion, comes from lack of jobs, lack of education and other opportunities and from poor parenting.
     
  17. arauca Banned Banned

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    I agree before we had cowboys and indian , then changed to detectives , and now cars fly explode and speed and collision . We have definitive a different society the violent music tells a lot.
     
  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I agree regarding society. I just think that the movies and music reflect the society that we live in rather than cause it in any way.
     

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