Do all races have the same genetic IQ potential?

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    For example if you put an Australian Aborigine in Japan would they get a 105 IQ?
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If he spoke Japanese....
     
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    You really believe that?
     
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  7. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    IQ is not a real thing, neither is any mythological link between genes and intelligence.
     
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    That's the first condition. Einstein would have scored poorly on a Japanese intelligence test (assuming he didn't speak Japanese).

    And beyond culture, there is a myriad of other cultural considerations that complicate "testing" of intelligence.
     
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    A "real thing"? I think you're confusing the map with the territory. Nobody claims IQ is "real", it's a measurement highly correlated with performance. Are you claiming it's not highly correlated with performance?
     
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    So you believe that if a Japanese family adopted an Australian Aborigine baby, they'd grow up with a 105 IQ?
     
  11. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Performance isn't intelligence. I don't think Aboriginal Australians are any less intelligent than an average Japanese person. It sounds like you are assuming so.
     
  12. Felicity Isherwood Banned Banned

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    • Self-denigration is what it is, but that says nothing about whether anyone else need watch.
    You seriously believe Australian Aborigines are as intelligent as the Japanese? We all know what intelligence is, you're gaslighting and lying.
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say that, did I?

    Let's not move the goalposts. You asked, "For example if you put an Australian Aborigine in Japan would they get a 105 IQ?" The answer is, "No. He wouldn't even be able to read the test."

    Similarly, if you plunked the most exceptionally intelligent Japanese down in the outback, he would die.
     
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    Yes, I got that the answer was no, you said that already, so I asked a further more developed question. And what if we gave them a culture neutral test, e.g. Raven's?
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If a baby with Aborigine genetics grew up in Japanese culture, why would you expect him to perform differently than a baby with Japanese genetics?
     
  16. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Nazis have no place on this forum.
     
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  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    What are you on about? IQ is a distribution, not a single value for a whole population.

    But who cares. You'll be gone soon enough.
     
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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Is this just a sock of ol' what's his name, returned from the Cesspool?
     
  19. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Almost certainly. I've reported him. The use of a female handle is an obvious ploy.

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  20. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Did we define "race" yet?
     
  21. Felicity Isherwood Banned Banned

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    Shared ancestry, like any other taxa in biology.
     
  22. Felicity Isherwood Banned Banned

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    It's not a defining characteristic of Nazism to think races are not exactly the same. The contrary is Marxism perhaps. I guess this is a Marxist forum, rather than a science forum.
     
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    Because that's the pattern we see everywhere. If you close your eyes and pretend real hard, then races are the same. Meanwhile, in reality, races perform similarly wherever they're transplanted, strongly implicating genetic differences. But that's just scientific parsimony. If you're an a priori Marxist you can throw out Occam's razor and posit mysterious forces of "discrimination", which magically increase with distance.
     
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