Destroying confidential documents.!!!

Discussion in 'Chemistry' started by cluelusshusbund, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I thout about soakin such papers (stacks 1/2 to 1 inch thick such as canceled checks) in water... but what chemical coud be added to water that woud speed up the process... ive considered bleach... is ther somptin beter than that which woudnt put off dangerous fumes.???
     
  2. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Moderator

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    http://www.ehow.com/how_4465261_make-paper-pulp.html

    Another option might be to simply shred the paper, and then put it in a sauce pan and boil/simmer it on a low heat for a couple of hours, effectively treating the paper the same way that you treat fruits or vegetables when you're making a soup or a jam (which is essentially what you're doing, making paper soup.

    or, alternatively, if you can get your hands on some concentrated enough sulfuric acid, that has the ability to reduce it to a slushy black carbonized mess.
     
  3. Enmos Moderator

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    Burn them!
     
  4. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Buy a paper shredder. Shred them. Then burn the shreds. Then compost the ashes with your kitchen scraps.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting

    Then eat the vegetables you grow from them. Then poop.

    Then flush.

    Should be hard to reassemble them.
     
  5. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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  6. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Moderator

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    If you're worried about chlorine, try one of the oxygen based alternatives.
     
  7. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    If you have kids you could make paper with your paper....

    http://www.pioneerthinking.com/makingpaper.html

    or even if you don't have kids. I was just trying to manipulate you.
     
  8. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    No not realy... i will prolly do the big batchs outside (this spring) anyway.!!!

    I will prolly do my esperiment in covered glass jars which will be nice for visual inspectons.!!!

    No i dont have any kids but makin paper souns fun... thers anuther thang that can be done wit paper-pulp... which is mix it wit clay soil... an then you can shape it into pottery type stuff an it can be fired at reletively low heat (600 degrees?)... som guy was tellin me about it but i didnt get all the detales... i thank it mite be called clay-mashay.???

    An Doreen... i always feel atempted manipulaton by you'r posts directed to me... eh :)
     
  9. codex Registered Member

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    Burn them. Burn them. Burn them.
     
  10. codex Registered Member

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    or pay for a company to come and shred them but watch them being shreded
     
  11. draqon Banned

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    well since a mod deleted my comment even though it was part of this thread discussion...I will repeat it.

    Send it to the sun...destroy the confidential documents into atoms. You can't unshred that, you can't unburn that.
     
  12. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    You could soak in it sugar and mix it with fresh soil. Somebody in there should eat it.

    That's the power of righteous persuasion and truth knocking on your door, sir. It always feels manipulative at first because of the strong inner pull one feels toward it.
     
  13. DRZion Theoretical Experimentalist Valued Senior Member

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    I was about to say the exact same thing a minute ago!

    The one problem is that it may stink - but later it will turn to good planting soil.
     
  14. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Mayb we shud get rid of spent fuel from nucular-reactors by sendin it to the sun.???

    Its illegle to burn stuff like that in my area.!!!

    An Doreen... i always feel atempted manipulaton by you'r posts directed to me... eh :)

    No... thats you'r inability to manipulate me :)

    How com you dont have a sig... do you not want 1... or do you want 1 an dont know how to make it... if the ladder is the case i will make 1 for you if you like.!!!
     
  15. draqon Banned

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    well emmm there is fuel issue to send spent fuel up there :rolleyes: Meanwhile do send confidential information of cluelusshusband, well thats worth billion of investments.
     
  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    hahaha..... :D
     
  17. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    You could nitrate some of the cellulose in the paper, which would cause it to disappear in a flash if lit on fire (rather than burning slowly and producing smoke+ash). It might be a bit of a fire hazard though.
     
  18. superstring01 Timelord in training. Moderator

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    The US DoD has a standard procedure for destroying sensitive documents when out in the field:
    1. Shred the document into smalls pieces (usually using a security shredder / chipper)
    2. Dig a pit, no less than 3' deep and 4' wide, and place the shreds within the pit
    3. Burn the shreads/chips in a fire using flamable liquid (gasoline, diesel, kerosene), allowing the material to burn until converted totally to ash
    4. Add water to the ashes in the pit and mix until it forms a muddy paste
    5. Refill the pit with the dirt removed to make the pit and return it to the appearance of the local surrounding

    That should do it if you're looking to totally destroy evidence with a strong degree of overkill.

    ~String
     
  19. ElectricFetus I'm just going for a walk... Valued Senior Member

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    Just burn them! Besides no one can really understand your writing anyways.

    Also, as of yet there is no known way to destroy your documents from time travelers trying to read them, sorry... wait I got it! unless you travel back in time to before the documents were created and prevented their creation!
     
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  20. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    That souns like fun but you lost me at "fire-hazard" :(


    Thanks any way but that much overkill ant necesary.!!!

    Well "no one"... lol... open burnin of such stuff is illegle in my area.!!!

    Below is 1 of 3 jars wit a 1 inch stack of checks inside... the checks are held down by 6 oz. of wate (pennys) inside a red plastic lid... i plan to add the plane-water... bleach-water an Rid-X-water tomorow when the esperiment will begn.!!!


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