i found an issue of science that contained the article and i posted the link here on the forums before i downloaded it. the link no longer works but i did post a few excerpts from the issue. post 432 www.sciforums.com/threads/does-evolution-exsist.106025/page-22#post-2716879 the above post raised a shitstorm that rages to this day. remember, this was published in 1983 or so. the conclusion of this conference? that small changes do not accumulate. that's only the tip of the iceberg enmos. there is also the fraudulent horseshit in connection with ayala and what he said. the infamous alleged retraction. this "retraction" is posted on arrowsmiths website "noanswersin genesis". a number of people wrote to science concerning said article, none of them was ayala. science did not post any errata or corrections to said article.