Denial of Evolution VII (2015)

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  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Great admin post.
     
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  3. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting that we learned to write before we learned to talk. Gee, I would have thought that the spoken language had been around for awhile before it was written down...
     
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  5. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    You can go back to the link I provided. There is plenty of information there. Its pretty easy to follow. As long as you will pretend you are a rational human that is capable of learning new things.
     
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  7. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    what is this billy?
    clouding the issue?
    there are only 2 things required for the history of evolution:
    1. the fossils
    2. the time line.

    it's my understanding that "biomolecules" are not preserved in fossils and therefor have no relevance.

    we have the timeline but we lack the fossils.
    or to put it like eldridge, it doesn't show gradual changes.
    and it's the exact same thing ayala was refering to.
    there is no reason to hide from all of this.

    i bet gould nailed it with his concept of spandrels, he just didn't look deep enough.
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    It is born out of frustration of seeing someone, in the zeal of trying to deny evolution, dismissing ancient civilisations who not had art, tools, community and yes, language, written and spoken.

    You only have to look at ancient Egypt for a prime example of this. To put it down to a young Earth type theory of just the last 6000 years and attributing it all to God. It astounds me that in this day and age, that someone could still hold on to such backwards beliefs.
     
  9. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    leopold, when will you wake up and understand that even if there wasn't a single fossil in existence, evolution would still be the leading and most convincing theory of species development? There is extremely compelling evidence aside from fossils. Geez, it's like beating your head against a brick wall...
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    poor bells, i've had days like that.
    it usually starts out by one girl finding out about the other one.
    needlessly to say, i put a lot of miles on my car.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    "Though a possible whale-to-mammal transitional sequence has recently been unearthed, critics maintain that transitional sequences are rare, at best. For this reason, critics argue that Darwin's theory has failed an important test.
    Explore Evolution, p. 27"

    hmmm did you read your link?
     
  12. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Are you having a freaking laugh? Where did I deny evolution? 10k years then, are you happy?
     
  13. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    lucy and the lads hung around caves for 190k years, then all of a sudden speech, writing, art, music. Recently we have devolved! (joking, I'm hopeful of the future.).

    EDIT: Hollywood and McDonald's deserve a mention, along with the Yorkshire Pudding.
     
  14. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i don't think anyone here disputes microevolution or heredity.
    this after all was the topic of the conference.
    how these two processes interact . . . IF they do at all.
    lewin prints an outright NO!, but then goes on to add they might be a continuum, which makes no sense.

    i believe that goulds concept of spandrels is the cause of lifes diversity.
    the problem gould had was he didn't look deep enough.
    spandrels are the concept, "junk" and regulatory genes are the cause, and quite possibly the result.
     
  15. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    Yes and I understood what I was reading. I'm sorry that you don't. They are debunking the claims made in Explore Evolution, and other creationist literature. This is what is said immediately before the quote that you pulled.

     
  16. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    guess the guy expected to blind me with a 10metre page of text that would try and discredit the above. The truth is what was posted.
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I saw, now and replied.
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    i didn't put you on ignore i thought you had put me on ignore.
     
  19. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    So you are admitting that you misunderstood? I am not going to put anyone on ignore. Whats the point of that?
     
  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    because believe it or not, there's a lot of creeps on the web, the type i like to avoid, i mean the options there for a reason right? Everything on the planet came about through evolution, I went on my "human" rant, so switched to a human specific place in time.
     
  21. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    Fair enough. Your post that included something about 6000 years made it seem like you were a young earth creationist. I am glad to see that this is not the case.

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  22. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    lol i was many years ago

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    there's hope for everyone...
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Moderator notice: leopold has 24 hours to respond to matters raised earlier in this thread at the time of his last ban. He has been informed in a private conversation of exactly what is needed to avoid a further 2 week ban from sciforums.
     

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