Democrat Honesty and the BP Oil Spill

Yes, we now have the Liberals and Democrats acting holyer than thou over the BP oil spill, but lets look at just how much they bennifitted from the largess of BP and it's lobbiest, and the protection it bought.

^ a b Lerer, Lisa (14 May 2010). "Effort to Raise Oil-Spill Liability Fails in Senate". Bloomberg. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...spill-liability-fails-in-senate-update1-.html.
^ Goldman, Julianna (2010-05-04). "White House Backs Higher Damage Cap After BP Spill". Bloomberg. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...igher-damage-cap-after-bp-spill-update1-.html. Retrieved 2010-05-05.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...spill-liability-fails-in-senate-update1-.html

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

On top of that, the oil giant has spent millions each year on lobbying — including $15.9 million last year alone — as it has tried to influence energy policy. ​

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html#ixzz0rUY4KTHE


Obama biggest recipient of BP cash | Reuters
May 5, 2010 ... And at DC Legislative and Regulatory Services, BP lobbyist David Marin was formerly ... The hypocrisy of Democrats continues to amaze me. ...

In Congress, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), who last week cautioned that the incident should "not be used inappropriately" to halt Obama's push for expansion of offshore drilling, has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of BP's largesse. Her comments created some blowback, with critics complaining that she is too blasé about the impact of the disaster, even though she was among the first lawmakers to call for a federal investigation into the spill.

As the top congressional recipient in the last cycle and one of the top BP cash recipients of the past two decades, Landrieu banked almost $17,000 from the oil giant in 2008 alone and has lined her war chest with more than $28,000 in BP cash overall............................

Several BP executives have given directly to Landrieu's campaign, including current and previous U.S. operation Presidents Lamar McKay and Robert Malone. Other donors include Margaret Hudson, BP's America vice president, and Benjamin Cannon, federal affairs director for the U.S. branch. Donations ranged from $1,000 to $2,300 during the past campaign cycle...............

BP representation within lobby shop Alpine Group alone includes lobbyist Bob Brooks, who served as chief of staff to former Rep. Jim McCrery (R-La.), and lobbyist Rebecca Hawes, a longtime counsel for former Sen. John Breaux (D-La.). Jason Schendle worked for Landrieu for nine years, according to lobbying disclosures..................

Former Rep. Jim Turner, (D-Tx.) now a lobbyist for BP with Arnold & Porter, formerly represented the 2nd District of Texas, which includes a large piece of Gulf shoreline. And at DC Legislative and Regulatory Services, BP lobbyist David Marin was formerly the lead Hill staffer for Congress's Select Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina.........

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64420A20100505

Walter B. Jones, Sr., a Democratic congressman from North Carolina's 1st congressional district introduced H.R. 1465

Co-sponsers to H.R.1465

Rep Boxer, Barbara [CA-6] - 3/16/1989

Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-16]

Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4]

Rep Kennedy, Joseph P., II [MA-8]

Rep Traficant, James A., Jr. [OH-17]

Rep Akaka, Daniel K. [HI-2]

Rep Bosco, Douglas H. [CA-1]

Rep Lipinski, William O. [IL-5]

Rep Studds, Gerry E. [MA-10]

Rep Torricelli, Robert G. [NJ-9]

Rep Owens, Major R. [NY-12]

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This has already been discussed in another thread.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2567313&postcount=26

And Republicans lead Democrats by more than 2 to 1 in campaign money from oil companines. And if you are so concerned about campaign money, I suggest you join the Democrats in favor of legislation requiring public funding of federal elections and eliminating private funding of campaigns for federal office.

Don't you read the information in your links buffalo roam? It clearly states that the Democratic effort to raise liability limits on oil companies was thwarted in the Senate by Republican Senator Murkowski. She thought it was unfair to mom and pop drillers. I guess she thinks the government should come in and pay for the cleanup if a mom and pop rig goes under and causes a disaster.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...spill-liability-fails-in-senate-update1-.html

Senator Lisa Murkowski, an Alaska Republican, offered an objection that ended the effort.

Murkowski and other senators from oil-producing states have expressed concerns that the higher limit would force smaller petroleum refiners out of the market.

Obama received more money from the oil industry than any other candidate except, Republican John McCain...funny how that works.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=e01

So bottom line, your amorphous claims don't pass muster.Those pesky little facts keep getting in your way. But you don't let them stop you.

 

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In the past 10 years BP gave $1,805,751 to Democrats and $4,398,728 to Republicans. That's 29% Dems verses 71% Reps.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000091

 

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During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html#ixzz0rVeGhfat

 

Does this mean buffalo roam that you are going to join with Democrats and push for public funding of campaigns?

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.p...,_Public_Funding_of_Some_Elections_(June_2010)

 

So joe are you going to join the TEA Party and demand the total disclosure of all campaign contributions, down too the last penny? and Term Limits?

joe, guess what, what I support is term limits and total disclosure, every penny accounted for and who it came from.

 

So, let's put your response in plain unambiguous English, NO. No you are not for banning the very campaign donations you are complaining about Democrats receiving. Instead, you want to keep private funding of campaigns. And why do you want that, because it benefits the Republican Party more. They/Republicans are the biggest takers of special interest money and oil money as has been repeatedly documented.

You want to try and slice and dice it to make it look like Democrats are tainted because they too get those donations and ignore the fact that Republicans get the lions share of the special interest money. And you are not willing to get rid of special interest money in our elections. I think that says alot about the veracity of your position.

And for the record, we do have and have had campaign donation contribution disclosures down to the penny for many years. What we have not had down to the penny is lobbyist disclosures....big difference.

As for term limits, that is another issue. You are getting off topic again. Term limits was one of the things the Republicans changed their mind on once they took control of congress in 1994. They were all for term limits until the got to office, and then once in office they thought they were too valueable to be subject to term limits....funny how that worked. If Republicans wanted term limits as they claim, why didn't they do it when they had the chance?

 

Guess what spidergoat, to get a specific search like Obama and BP PAC contributions, you need to donate to Open Secrets.

The numbers are correct, Obama is the largest single recipient of the Largess of BP for the last 10 years.

Le Figaro,
France

Did Obama Get “Too Much”
Money from B.P.?

http://watchingamerica.com/News/54847/did-obama-get-too-much-money-from-b-p/

During his time as senator and his run for the presidency, Obama received $77,051, putting him at the head of the pack of those benefiting from B.P. (individual and PAC donations).


Even the rags in Europe have this information.

 

joe, guess what, were have I defended the Republicans in this?

I have only pointed out that the Democrats and Obama are just as much in line for the Largess of political PAC as the Republicans, it is You joe who make the Democrats as the Good Guys in this, and as for;

I check to you with:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64420A20100505

Yes, joe, take the Democratic blinders off.

 

joe, tell me how they are going to ban political contribution?

The people in congress if they really wanted to could do this in one secession, have they?

Have the Democrats done so?

I know the Republicans haven't done so?

For all the calls of banning PAC contribution, and soft money, it still flows into the coffers of both parties, so why not just have full disclosure?

Let see who is really on the leash of the Industrial PACs, Guess what joe?

Your Democrats are just as much on the take of the PACs as the Republicans.

joe, I am not the one defending His Democrats like a sow bear with cubs, I am the one pointing out that your chosen party and politicians are just as greedy as the other, and have not defended the Republicans once in any of my posts on this, just holding up the mirror.

http://watchingamerica.com/News/54847/did-obama-get-too-much-money-from-b-p/

Opening the books on the relationships between elected officials and oil companies is necessary and reveals that Republicans are also on the financial receiving end. "B.P. ranks among the most powerful corporate forces in U.S. politics," said Dave Levinthal of the Center for Responsive Politics. In the year 2000, they invested in Republicans. In 2008, they financed the Democrats and Republicans equally.

 

Buffalo Roam's Honesty and the BP Oil Spill

Buffalo Roam's Honesty and the BP Oil Spill

Is there anything that Buffalo Roam won't say? Is his hatred of a black man in the White House so great that any situation is cause to go digging for muck? After all, that's the important thing, right? It's not the conduct of big business, or the damage this spill has done and will do to state and local economies and the people who make them up. The most important thing in the world is get Obama.

That an idea has existed before and still persists does not seem to matter to him. Will Joe join with the Tea Party? Or is the Tea Party just the latest in a long line of political voices to make a suggestion, or demand? But, no. It's Mr. Roam's fellow paranoid racist liars making the demand, so we ought to all stop and pucker up.

And what of BP's clairvoyance? Or was it really so hard to see the writing on the wall? After all, would Mr. Roam actually do the year-by-year analysis of money BP has given the president? Of course not. He just sits at home, lets his fellow paranoid hatemongers post more a bunch of half-witted spam, gobbles it up eagerly, and then runs off to scream about The big, bad Obama at Sciforums.

Facts? They're just convenient things to stoke the hatred. Intelligent analysis? The only intelligent analysis Mr. Roam knows is, "Get Obama!"

So let me remind my neighbors of a simple cause and effect: Mr. Roam posts, you respond, he thinks he's done the world some great service.

The day he is capable of writing a halfway intelligent analysis of his own, go ahead and pay attention. But as long as he desperately whores propaganda, all you do by giving him attention is invite more of the same uneducated, dishonorable buffalo shit. What's that smell in here? Check your shoes, and watch where you step.

So what is the deal with Mr. Roam's honesty and the BP oil spill? Right: What honesty?

 

Ah, no. You are slicing and dicing the numbers to be able to come up with some trash to throw at Democrats and totally ignoring Republican hands in the kitty. That is fair and balanced the faux news way.

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You need to take a rest buffalo roam...that is not making any kind of sense. All there is there is repetition of previous nonsense.

I think your unwillingness to ban private funding of campaigns - the very practice you are now complaining about- speaks volumes as to the truthfulness or lack thereof of your complaints. Perhaps it is you who should remove your blinders.

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And yet Obama was able to negotiate a 20 billion dollar escrow account on behalf of the American people. Meanwhile, what did BP buy from Republicans? They are so in the pocket of BP they are apologizing to it! That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Total disclosure is already the law, hence Open Secrets.

 

Honesty Tiassa? yes play the race card, typical liberal, I wouldn't give a rats ass if Obama was green with purple polka dots, I don't like His backroom Chicago protection racket back room politics.

It is true I have no love for Obama, and His liberal socialist bent redistribution policies.

Honesty Tiassa, check you own before you question mine.

 

its like with clinton where the right did everything they could to destroy him no matter the cost nor the harm it would cause to the country or its people.

 

Who doesn't play backroom politics? That seems like an unfair stereotype.

 

BP, has already spent far more that the 20 Billion Dollars my friend, again when has BP ever tried to duck their responsibility?

And Guess what, that $20 Billion doesn't come on line for how many years?

In the first two years of the deal BP is only good for $4 Billion Dollars, BP has already spent far more that the $1.75 billion cap.

Yes, and the Tooth Fairy left a quarter under your pillow last night.

 

I agree with most of what you said Tiassa, with one exception. People like Mr. buffalo roam need to be confronted with a dose of truth...else the lies get repeated ad nauseum in a multitude of forums and eventually the majority perceive the lies as truth and that is a true danger to our society...a little quirk in the way our brains are put together.

It would be nice if the world is as you seem to think it is, but sometimes in the real world evil wins. It would be nice if everyone had the knowledge and clarity of thought that would allow them to see through the chaff and the lies. But unfortunately such is not the case. That is why I believe that the nosense must be confronted at every opportunity. We saw what happened when george II and his merry band of Republicans came to control our government, economic collapse, environmental disasters, etc. What is next?

Our current situation reminds me a lot of post WWII Germany....less the economic crisis (which was narrowly avoided for the being).

 

Obama is a crook.

What else is new?

 

no he isn't.