Dem Charges Republicans with trying to Deny Blacks the Right to Vote

Discussion in 'Politics' started by madanthonywayne, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, as previously cited:

    The fact is all of these laws were passed with plenty of lead time for people to get their IDs, and the IDs are obviously easy to get.

    Which is why NO ONE bitches because they have to show the exact same ID to take a friggin vacation, but suddenly asking people to prove they are an eligible voter is such a hardship.

    Get real.

    It's not.
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That only means, if true, they failed to get the outcome they desired. The very elderly and the poor do not regularly take expensive vacations that involve air travel.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Assuming that everyone flies to vacations is pretty elitist. I wouldn't want the poorer/older/more infirm people to be excluded from voting just because someone can't imagine they exist.
     
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  7. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    That isn't my assumption, but it does show that we have no issue with mandating the exact same ID requirements to board a damn plane.

    Or to return from Canada or Mexico or Europe....

    Seems like the ID requirement to vote should be at least the same as getting on a plane, buying alcohol, opening a bank account, driving a car etc etc.

    The arguments about how much of a hardship it is, is total BS.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not going to be x-rayed or patted down for weapons when I vote either, so your analogy is flawed.
     
  9. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    No it's not.
    You need the ID to even get to the security point.

    And you need the exact same ID for many other ROUTINE daily activities, so no claiming it's a hardship is just BS.

    I'm curious though.

    What part of this don't you understand?

    The SCOTUS stated There is no question about the legitimacy or importance of a State’s interest in counting only eligible voters’ votes.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    All told, a dozen states have approved new obstacles to voting. Kansas and Alabama now require would-be voters to provide proof of citizenship before registering. Florida and Texas made it harder for groups like the League of Women Voters to register new voters. Maine repealed Election Day voter registration, which had been on the books since 1973. Five states – Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia – cut short their early voting periods. Florida and Iowa barred all ex-felons from the polls, disenfranchising thousands of previously eligible voters. And six states controlled by Republican governors and legislatures – Alabama, Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin – will require voters to produce a government-issued ID before casting ballots. More than 10 percent of U.S. citizens lack such identification, and the numbers are even higher among constituencies that traditionally lean Democratic – including 18 percent of young voters and 25 percent of African-Americans.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1oYpUFUqV


    This isn't about ensuring eligible citizens get to vote, it's about reducing the number of people in total that can vote.
     
  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    no you don't. I've flown without valid id.
     
  12. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    You had to prove who you were, and until you do, you don't fly.

    But Voting precincts don't have the resources of the TSA.
    So if you don't have a valid picture ID, you are given a provisional ballot and allowed to vote.
    Then you can go get a valid ID so your vote can be added to the official count.

    It's a very rational compromise.

    But as this thread shows, those opposed to verifing people's identity are not interested in any form of rational compromise.
     
  13. keith1 Guest

    These latest gauntlets could be addressed with an easily-implemented and widely-advertised process, without so much of the time-wasting grief, evil impressions of vote-denying undertones, and dehumanizing the poor, elderly, and disabled.

    What we are left with is mostly myth, much like is the reality similarly that the miniscule stats reveal in the abortion numbers--much ado about nothing.
    What we are left with is dirty political tricks, similarly like redistricting is.

    When clowns rule, the ticket booth gets robbed, and the tent falls on the innocent audience.

    --keith1
     

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