Without getting into too much detail, a "debate" (aka slanging match) has developed in the Philosophy arena on the nature of freewill. The old genuine vs illusion debate. Someone (I'll keep names out of it to protect the innocent) posted the following, and I would greatly appreciate a second opinion - and yes, they did give their permission to use it wherever one wished: The quote: "Self animation, self determination and life for humans is intrinsically related. I have chosen the laws Gravity and their effects to be a field of relevance It is only when a human is dead that he is compelled to comply with the said laws of gravity. If I prove that humans can defy the laws of gravity by simply standing up [ demonstrating self will, life etc] then I have accomplished the task. and as human life, self animation and self determination are intrinsically related the reality of freewill is the most likely outcome as it is as real as life, as already agreed to be, is. The claim that nothing can defy the laws of physics [as currently known] is thus proven to be invalid, because living humans, by free choice, do it or not do it, every day of their lives." By way of guide, a few questions: 1. Is it possible to defy the laws of gravity by standing up? 2. Does a living person adhere to the laws of gravity in the same way that a dead person does? 3. Does the act of standing up invalidate the notion that nothing can defy the laws of physics [as currently known]? Now, for the last, I am aware that scientific laws [as currently known] can be proven false... so I guess it is more a matter of has anything ever yet been shown to defy those laws? I have a very good idea of the answers, only my opinion does not seem to hold water on the matter. Hence I am opening it up for a wider audience. Enjoy. Edit: There have been concerns that this may quickly be moved to pseudo-science (or worse) so I am not trying to espouse any theories, but just seeking opinion on the matters highlighted. Please be as brief or as verbose as you desire.