Defining what is God.

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  1. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    therefore mental consideration is rationalism and the object is empiricism
    thus defining something ultimately depends on whether one favours empiricism or rationalism (they have a tendency to contradict one another)
    your query in bold indicates that rationalism is your preferred mode of perception
    bold = empiricism
    italics = rationalism

    1+1=11

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    here is another one that exhibits the limits of rationalism and explains why computers require constant debugging - what do you make of this?

    A - Statement B is wrong
    B - Statement A is correct
     
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  3. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Lightgigantic:

    Yes.

    But the two are only semi-exclusive. Generally speaking, I favour a dualistic approach.

    Clever!

    You Cretan bastard, you!

    I actually deal with this in the General Philosophy section. Check it out if you're inclined. I'd be interested in your viewpoints if you wish to share them, although the thread is itself rather dead:

    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=58789
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    foul language.
     
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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Prince_James

    how do you resolve the mutually exclusiveness/contradictions of duality?



    Thats somewhat mild compared to the standard response of instances of logical contradictions (such as a computer error)

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  8. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    You're thinking of a fasces. "Strength through unity"; "ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!", etc.


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  9. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    LightGigantic:

    Generally speaking, rationalism and empiricism rarely interact. Rationalism is devoted to a priori truths. Epiricism to a posteriori truths.

    Water having a quality of "forming one big drop" is an a posteriori truth, and thus something only empirical analysis could give us.

    "A = A" is an a priori truth, and only rationalism can give it to us.
     
  10. grover Registered Senior Member

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    Redarmy,
    Actually faggot and fascist both mean bundle of sticks. Look it up. Its kind of interesting.
     
  11. Satyr Banned Banned

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    Defining what is God is an intellectually disingenuous trap.

    It asks for a definition for a hypothetical which becomes more possible through the definition or the taking of the question seriously.

    This [Deleted], lightgigantic, has allowed his mind, or is genetically inclined, to fall into the dark abyss of superstition and supernatural absurdity.

    He asks for a definition of the indefinable nonexistent.

    Let us practice this strategy in other areas:

    Define Goblins.
    Define Leprechauns.
    Define the Spaghetti monster.
    Define Big Foot.

    This is how children wallow away their time.

    “Okay…if there were a monster under my bed, then how would it look?”
    “If my asshole was a gateway into another dimension how would you enter it and where would it lead?”

    Let us indulge our wanting imaginations and find reasons to believe in the absurd.

    If this religious twit wants to understand the depths of his stupidity he should ask himself:
    “Why am I an atheist in relation to Allah or to Zeus? Why am I not convinced by these deities? Why am I skeptical towards their existence?”

    The answer he gives himself will be the answer an atheist or agnostic gives him in relation to his belief in the absurd hypothesis he needs to feel safe and special.
     
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  12. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Well.. it's fasces, not fascist. Sorry to be picky. But, yes, I knew that. I just wanted to cast aspersions on the state of Colorado.
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    then it seems that when push comes to shove you jump in with the rationalists - in other words, you resolve duality by saying that empiricism is necessary but rationalism is both necessary and sufficient ..... or is it something else?
     
  14. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    LightGigantic:

    You are quite right that, in the end, I am more rationally inclined than empirically inclined. This can be explained by the fact that I am a philosopher and not a scientist, that is, I deal mostly with matters of the mind and the a priori, rather than the world and the a posteriori (although I do not neglect it).

    However, I am afraid I do not understand the precise meaning of your question? You claim that I believe rationalism is both necessary and sufficient, but make the claim that only empiricism is necessary. In what way do you affirm that I am claiming something more for rationalism? Or rather, wha lends you to this belief? For as far as I am aware, I put them on equal levels in different domains. However, it is often that we must merge the approches.
     

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