Hi Daydreamer, I get the impression you are describing what it is like to be in love. And I really can understand Neb's reply. I have been in love more then once. But I only once had the feeling I tried to describe. The difference turned out to be too subtle for words. But I do think it really is something different than being in love. (There is still the possibility that I fooled myself, but I don't like to think of it that way. That would spoil my memories. Darn what is true - now I don't know any more)
hmmm... If looking in ones eyes when asking a question, conversing, or otherwise gives you a glimpse at their true feelings and thoughts then what are we doing posting in this forum where we cannot see each other?...This could be considered a ludicrous source for information about these matters...Orrrrrr perhaps a flight away from our defense mechanisms that seem to jade things at awkward times.No telling the truth to the fullest in person or at the keyboard....Perhaps a sentience of one is our goal? Do you understand why i would like to read minds? I wish everyone could...No secrets, Everything in the open and nothing to get in the way...A mergence of all into one. No seperation whatsoever...Now thats love! Did i get away from the original posted thread topic? In a way i did but thats when interesting things happen...
Futile I really would like to build a Borg homing-device. Maybe you can help me. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I guess there would be a lot less lying and cheating when we all could.
Oh you men, why can't your girlfriend have good relationships with other men (as a friend!) and LOVE you at the same time? I had more friends then girlfriends in my life, but no romances with them, just very good friends. We went out dancing and talked the whole night, without being romanticaly involved. Most of the time my girlfriend was with me and we (girlfriend and I ) were surrounded by good friends, which was a very good 'thing' in some cases. Tell you one thing once happened to me. We were out dancing, late at night, in Utrecht and there were some very tall African men in there also. All of a sudden one of them came up to one of my friends and wanted to buy me from him. To take me with him to Africa. It was rather frightning, for the 5 of them, very tall Africans, were coming up to my friend because they had decided to take me away any how. Well, I have one friend who looks like a bully ( big and strong) who was sitting a little in the dark. He stood up and came forward to them. He looked at them in his own grumpy manner and told them to get lost, very quickly before he would throw them out himself. They were startled to see him so all at once and my friends were in the majority with him with them, so they went away...eventually. So you see, it is not that bad to be surrounded by good (men) friends. And I could always talk better with men then with women. Had always one very good girlfriend, she still is, and a lot of friends. Don't see the problem here. Why should a man be jealous of his girlfriend as he really knows she LOVES him, but is only with her friends to have fun and have a little good talk. My former husband knew these friends very well and didn't have a problem with it. Never. And I stayed away for the night because I had to go by train and the last one heading home took off at midnight. Much to early, then the dancing and so on was just about to begin. Then we took the early train in the morning at 07.00 and went home. My former husband was gone for work then and I had to start working some hours later, till 03.30 in the night, but that never has been a problem. It is the way you look at it and handle it. A lot of men think that their women are cheating on them as soon as they are friendly and closer to another man. That is not always true.... Perhaps you take a look from out this perspective. Nothing wrong with that... And the women who tell you on purpose they've had so and so many boyfriends, well, I doubt it. Just to see if you are jealous, If you are, they have it just the way they want because they want you, men, to be hooked on them and only on them. That goes wrong in the end. Well, my relationship went wrong also but not because of that, a whole different reason and not suitable for 'Dear Abby...'
im naturally paranoid about everyone... I guess thats just the way I amPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! banshee is right. you can have friends and not have them be romantic. i have a "girlfriend" shes a girl and shes my friend we talk about all kinds of stuff.
Hi Merlijn Couldn't agree with you more. I too have had many loves but still no one i could call "the one". The difference is really to hard to put in words. And that was what i meant with my first answer to the question: Thats just the way it is. There is no simple way to describe it, you just know. I hopePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! The loves i have had has always been just amazing. I truly have loved them all. But i have always felt in every relationship that there was something missing. I guess that is what they mean in the movies:"you have made me a whole person". When you feel you have it all, nothing is wrong, nothing is missing that is what i imagine it would be like to find the one. And banshee, i totally agree with you to. It is a lot easier to talk to my friends that are girls than it is with my male buddies.
Hi all, I've been reading and can't remember who said what, but Merlijn, sorry if I misunderstood your meaning in reply, sometimes it is hard to express things on paper when the look on your face would probably say it all. I hadn't heard the term complimentarity before but I know what you mean now - you get along so well that you compliment each other, like two sides to a coin; at least I think that's what you mean. Anyway.... I think it was Daydreamer who gave all those lovely reasons of how to know when you're in love and I agree 100 percent. It's when you love them more than you love yourself. Neb, I think in most cases women seem to get along much better with men generally. It's because there's no competition in the romance department. She may have a lot of female friends too but probably because you're so keen, you've only noticed the men friends. I always had more male friends than women and I don't know why. Maybe it's because men seem to have more of a sense of humour than women. When I think of my close girlfriends now, they're usually ones I laugh a lot with, so maybe it's got something to do with that. Hi thecurlyone, I think your problem happens all the time. It's like when you work closely with someone for a long time you get to know them so well that your feelings for them deepen. Although you haven't said whether you want to remain just friends I'm assuming you would like her to feel something more for you. Perhaps she is, and you haven't picked up the signals. You'll have to give us a bit more about how she is around you and maybe we can help, also watch how she is with her boyfriend, you might pick up signs of discontent on either side which would not be bad for you at all. Hope some of this helps somebody. Cheers Teri
Well, there are enough women who understand as well men as women. Guess age has something to do with that.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! In your teens you just start to discover your romantic feelings and then with all the other feelings, both men and women have, about their awakening bodies it can be pretty confusing. I think you have to walk the road in your own way. Try to feel what the other feels, what they really mean and think. What is really going on inside of them. But that is difficult to do when you are also busy with school and keeping up the attitude towards friends and so on. It will come...all in time. There is someone for everyone.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! And be friends with eachother, men and women, not so hard to do, give it a little attention... Acerbus, keep on the good way you are walking.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Thanks to everyone who helped with my dilema to do with girlfriends having more male than female friends. It was a thing that bothered me when I was in high school with my ex girlfriend. After my next 2 girlfriends said the same thing I told myself there was nothing to worry about. When I left school I developed better frienships with some girls and began to understand what my past girlfriends were on about. I just wanted to make sure I really didn't have to worry, or if there were any circumstances in which it could be a problem, from what you've all said I don't think so. HOORAYPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! The girlfreind i'm with now, well i'm her best guy friend as well as her boyfriend so its all good anyway.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
New Question. I have a new question for everyone, mainly the males because it's got to do with what they would do. Say you were injured in the groin area and could no longer perform normal sexual relations with a female, do you think you would still pursue romantic relationships knowing that you could never have children, or sex for that matter; or would you still like to be around women but never go further than friendship. Can anyone answer this? Do you think it would be devastating not to be able to have sex anymore? And would you tell a women about it if you started having strong feelings towards her? I'm generally asking the men, but if any of the women have known men who have had problems, I'd like the input. I know it's rather a personal topic, but I would rather ask objective people who don't know each other questions like that because there is no connection between them. Thanks, Teri
This is a very hard question, Teri 2! I have some diffculties imagining such a situation. I guess I enjoy sex too much and my mind is protecting itself. I really like to lick... no I LOVE it. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! But would I still like to get turned on like crazy when I couldn't get the O.? I wonder. maybe it would be too painful. But I think I would still like to have a romantic relationship. And I guess I would tell the women I was starting get strong feelings for. But then again - I do have some trouble imagining the situation. Maybe when the situation is there -God forbid - things are totally different. Maybe I could not get over the anger or the sorrow.
Hahaha, men without sex? Can they live without then? Come on men, tell me more...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Guess you can have a pretty good love relationship without sex. It is the feeling of love toward eachother which is the most important. If you really love eachother it can be very good. Even without sex. Though I didn't find out yet myself. Good love life at the moment.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! And then...there is always the rotten 'drug' called viagra..isn't there? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! More please about this subject. Good question Teri.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Real curious about the reactions...
Re: New Question. Of course I could still have sex without my equipment, that's why god gave me a tongue I can touch the tip of my nose with and two sets of fingers...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! No, really, I don't know about anyone else, but my enjoyment of sex is not solely based upon my own orgasm, in fact, the vast majority of my enjoyment comes from pleasing my partner. This can readily be done without the equipment down below. Maybe this is too explicit, but it is a point of fact that it is difficult for some women to reach orgasm solely by intercourse, therefor the lack of a penis is not necessarily a handicap. That's why there are toys out there that take batteries...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! As to wanting to have sexual relationships with a woman, of course I still would. I might be more afraid that my injury would lead the woman to no longer be interested, but it wouldn't stop my desire for women in general. My sexual attraction to a woman does not have the least to do with the performance of my equipment, it is all about what I find attractive in the woman. I would definitely tell her if I thought our relationship was leading somewhere, especially if she was interested in having children. If that was the case, then we would have to investigate things like artificial insemination or maybe in the future, cloning.
I can't bare to think about it, my life as I know it would be over. I'm not saying i'm my main concern when it comes to sex, I get greater enjoyment when the girl is enjoying it. Sure theres vibrators and dildo's but I don't think its the same for them, its nowhere near as intimate or romantic when you have to pull out something that constantly buzzes. I don't think I would pursue any serious relationship, i'd just live out my frustrating excitence in solitaire, that way I can avoid any kind of temptation, come to think of it, I'd have to stay indoors and not see anyone cause theres so many beautiful women out there it would drive me insane.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
You couldn't even wack off to relieve tension, good godPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Thanks for the answers so far, guys - and I'd love to hear some more answers too, but I want to give this thing another dimension. Suppose you are incapacitated (by whatever means) and a woman loves you and you know it, and she pretty much shows that she would stick around no matter what, do you think you'd be able to commit to her if she's happy with the situation? Keep in mind that the woman is thinking 'lifetime partner'; do you think you would do some soul searching before saying yes? Seriously, do you really think your life is over because you can't use your penis? Is it really that important?
SeekerOfTruth, very nice reply. You know how to handle without your 'equipment'. As far as the batterie material, available for women concerns....NO thank you, not in any way....Stupid inventions. If you REALLY love someone and the feelings are good and loving towards eachother, it really must be possible to live without your male, penis, relief. You can try to find that relief in another way. Just by being loved it is possible to come to a solution between the two of you. Neb, you don't go to live in solitary only because of that....Do you? Then you are all alone, such a pity. You get all cold inside then and you will not be happy any more... Hope it will all work out for every one of you boys, now and in the time to come.
From what i've heard men are not nearly as interested in sex as the women are after the age of, say 40. I have also heard some horror stories about the fact that the male population loses the ability to have sex at a certain age. If this is true, i sure hope that EVERYONE are able to commit and love their partner in marriage even after this age(given, of course, that it is "the one" mentioned earlier). If this is not true for someone they are going to have quite a boring second half in life Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! As i have said in my list: And besides this, i have to agree with the earlier answers: With tounge and hands you come a long way in bed. To watch the girlies moan in bed is just great.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
