David Lapoint , Di-Electric Universe, Plasma, Primer Fields

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  1. river

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    David changes the magnetic field emitters in the labratory to manipulate the plasma . and his camera .

    Which exposes the Red Square Nebula form , in the lab .

    Inotherwords while plasma is the essence of the Nebula , it is the magnetic field bowl shaped emitters that forms the Nebula .

    Di-electric is a non-conductor of electricity .

    So really his theory is based on magnetic fields . and on what they effect .
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks River.
    I cant figure the bowl emitter.
    I best study the red square neb from my astronomy sources so I know what is known about that neb.
    Thanks for your reply.
    Alex​
     
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  5. river

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    Your welcome

    Actually BOWLS rather than the bowl , there are two bowls . which are magnetic field emitters .
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Leave it with me. I will try and work out what this bowl maybe and if on my approach I can see anything in this... To be fair etc.
    Alex
     
  8. river

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    Do what you like .

    Bowls Alex bowls .

    really its about magnetic fields being bowled shaped .
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I cant work out any bowls in the photos of the nebula.
    Alex
     
  10. river

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    What Nebula ?
     
  11. river

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    Am I to assume Alex that you are referring to the Red Square Nebula ?
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The one I have been talking about... The Red Square Nebula.
    I see no bowls in the Red Square Nebula.
    Its shape does not seem tobe related in any way whatsoever to magnetism so I really dont know what David is trying to suggest.
    Alex
     
  13. river

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    Look in the center of the Nebula .

    And then compare this with lab. experiment .
     
  14. river

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    Alex

    David is saying the magetic field controls the shape of the Nebula .
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Hiya Alex.......see
    https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160131.html
    Discover the cosmos! Each day a different image or photograph of our fascinating universe is featured, along with a brief explanation written by a professional astronomer.

    2016 January 31

    MWC 922: The Red Square Nebula
    Image Credit & Copyright: Peter Tuthill (Sydney U.) & James Lloyd (Cornell)
    Explanation: What could cause a nebula to appear square? No one is quite sure. The hot star system known as MWC 922, however, appears to be embedded in a nebula with just such a shape. The featured imagecombines infrared exposures from the Hale Telescope on Mt. Palomar in California, and the Keck-2 Telescope on Mauna Kea in Hawaii. A leading progenitor hypothesis for the square nebula is that the centralstar or stars somehow expelled cones of gas during a late developmental stage. For MWC 922, these cones happen to incorporate nearly right angles and be visible from the sides. Supporting evidence for the conehypothesis includes radial spokes in the image that might run along the cone walls. Researchers speculate that the cones viewed from another angle would appear similar to the gigantic rings of supernova 1987A, possibly indicating that a star in MWC 922 might one day itself explode in a similar supernova.

    Also worth noting the Hexagon at the Northern polar regions of Saturn....

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    Bizarre Giant Hexagon on Saturn May Finally Be Explained
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    Hexagon observations made by Cassini in 2012, taken in wavelengths ranging from UV to IR.
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    Aliens at work???

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  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks Paddoboy but I have already been through all that.
    You need to try and build a 3d view of these things. Its sheer size suggests to me magnetism probably can not be a relevent force even if we find these mysterious bowls.
    Alex
     
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  17. river

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    NO

    More proof of Davids idea of magnetic field arrangement . it is eight sided .

    Of course you would know this if you had watched his video.

    Time to snozze.

    Enjoy .
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I do think the photo of the neb shows something strange in the optics and I say this because of the extreme diffraction spikes shown in stars in the frame, and if you look at the central region of the neb one wonders if the photo is realistic.
    I would like to see a photo with no diffraction spikes and I bet it will not look as square for a start.
    Nevertheless I see no reason to suggest magnetism the shape is no doubt entirely due to gravity.
    Anyways I see no bowls. How big are they?
    The spot in the center is a star do bowls sit on it?
    Alex
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I have but I dont buy what he is selling.
    His problem is it is a little mystical such that I for one am not clear as to the point he makes.
    Alex
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, when was this ever not explained?
    This is simply a sinusoidal wind pattern seen as a polar projection.

    Take a sine wave, wrap it into a circle.
    Poof, you get a closed, regular shape.

    Like this.
    I have done absolutely nothing to this sine wave except transpose it to polar coordinates:


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  21. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    That is a standing wave pattern, of course. Are global sinusoidal standing waves a known feature of planetary atmospheric systems?
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No what? I'm simply suggesting that at times we observe apparently unusual geometric structures in space. Whether that is a result of magnetic fields or sinusoidal wind pattern, the fact remains the overall structure of the Universe and galaxies within, are primarily a result of gravity.
    six sided, eight sided, or twelve sided, so?
    Like I said, I watched around 10 minutes, but when totally unknown turkey's, start making silly unsupported, unevidenced assumptions so early on, the signs of a quack/nut soon becomes evident.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Again, I must ask....who the f&*$ is this bloke David DuPont? What are his credentials? What expertise does he have?
    I mean if you were told you had brain cancer, would you go to the local haberdashery for treatment? These are genuine questions river.
    David seems to be spreading his version of his Gospel via u tube and on Facebook.
    Science is not conducted in this way....and then you have the audacity to ask why I do not watch his hour long video?

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    Like I said before, I did read Lerner's book "The BB Never Happened" which of course was totally derided for the nonsense it was. This David turkey seems to be pushing similar and I neither have the time nor the inclination to read anymore Easter Bunny stories.



    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread921117/pg21
    from the video:
    photon is concentration of energy, made up of many concentrations of energy, which are made of many concentrations of energy.....
    Translation:
    The Primer Field "Theory" is a bunch of nonsense, which is made of nonsense and supported by nonsense.
     
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