Darwinist's Dilemma (Are I.D. Biologists Legit?)

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  1. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Don't know that one.
     
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  3. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    How about animals that reproduce asexually?
     
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    The wild sheep have disgusting personal habits, so the domestic sheep won't mate with them.

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    And elephants won't date giraffes because they don't like the same restaraunts.
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Hehe - Sammie took down my post. Naughty.
     
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    Scientific definition of [ENC]syngameon[/ENC].
     
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  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Darn. I said that prior, but I think Sam took down my post again. I think it must be her way of telling me I should work more on my manuscripts.

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    Anyway, this is basically true IAC: pre-zygotic reproductive isolation. Domestic sheep don't recognize the wild sheep as being "sheep". They fall into the category of "not-like-me", and so are instantly excluded. Presumably the threshold for acceptance in canids is a bit lower.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=66561

    I totally sympathise on the manuscripts; I'm working on the discussion page on mine :bawl:
     
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    And that "not like me" attitude does not change the fact that they can be hybridized, and so, are of the same syngameon.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    But the insult doesn't work if it's not in context.

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    Shouldn't people who just want to see a debate about sheep be bombarded with off-topic humour about the sexual preferences of [ENC]invert_nexus[/ENC]?

    I generally work all over mine, several at a time. This explains why I suck at submitting things. Supposed to have sent two more; nada still, because I can't concentrate on any one of them. Dunno why. FFS. And I got some student's article back again because the journal doesn't get the evolutionary implications. Ridiculous. Duhr.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I dunno; seem to get more interesting my way.

    How do you ever get stuff done like that?

    I start with figures, results, methods, introduction and then weave everything into a discussion.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's the thing; I don't. I have a load of MSs waiting to be completed. It's ridiculous. I think I bite off more than I can chew, really.
     
  17. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Incorrect. Domestic sheep cannot hybridize with wild sheep, from which they descended. That's my whole point.
     
  18. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    That's true. I've slept with some dogs in my time.


    Author's note: If you can't be politically incorrect when you are pushing 59 how can you get any fun out of life?

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  19. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Sleeping with canines is a bit beyond being politically incorrect Ophi.
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    So, my devastating example is being ignored. Noah

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    must have had to gather both domestic and wild sheep, since they are separate "syngameons", since they cannot have viable offspring. How many other examples does this apply to? Care to update your theory, IAC?
     
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    Maybe there were about 20,001 syngameons on the Ark, but maybe not, they could have lost their interfertility by mutation or some other mechanism.
     
  22. Nutter Shake it loose, baby! Registered Senior Member

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    Thou shall not lie with canines, neither shall thou bend over before them, for it is confusion.

    Best wishes. :splat:
     
  23. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's called speciation. Happens all the time.
     

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