Creationism strikes back

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by spuriousmonkey, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    They want to tell us that man didn't evolve from apes. It's pretty much the truth in Kansas. In Kansas man didn't evolve.
     
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  3. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Homo sapiens evolved/es together with the apes, not from apes.
    We're still apes, just a more clever species than others.

    Edit: Here, got a definition from Britannica.com
     
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  5. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    We a spurious monkeys.

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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm, that's pretty damned subjective, ain't it?

    Is it more clever to pollute the land, water and atmosphere or to live in peace and harmony with your own kind AND with the environment? When the apes shit in their own nests too much, they move to a cleaner area. We clever species just drink the polluted water and breathe the polluted air ...and that's called "clever"?

    Apes seldom, if ever, kill the members of their own tribe. But us clever species do it on a regular basis. Plus we put some of those members in prisons for their entire lives or execute them ...and that's "clever"?

    Just what, exactly, do you mean by "clever"?

    Baron Max
     
  8. Roman Banned Banned

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    Do you know how landfills work? We take all our muck, dig a hole in the ground and shove it in there. When we run out of room, we move on. We've been doing this since we shat in our monkey nests.

    But guess what Baron? We're running out of room. We don't have a choice about what to eat and drink anymore.

    Some apes (orangutans) don't even have tribes, but big males will occasionally kill each other in ritual fighting. Gibbons are cute and gentle, live in troops. I'm unsure of their social structure (though they sing and hoot and make noises every morning to mark their territory. You can hoot back, and they'll hoot back and it can go on like this for an hour. It's a real hoot).

    The kinds of apes of ape that most closely resemble us (chimps) reguraly practice infanticide and all kinds of stuff. I think cannibalism has been recorded. And of course they fight between each other which sometimes end up with deaths. All intertribe, too.
     
  9. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    i'm sure we didn't evolve frm apes because i think helena blavatsky said so...

    it's more like that we were thoughts first then air and then slime and then flesh and bones... and i guess the apes evolved the same way....

    also... the natural laws... things... how they operate... can't be explained without an "intelligence" behind it.

    even an atom can't be the result of mere "chance"... too many conditions are required for it to be.... nothing is a chance....
     
  10. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Well, with reasoning like that, I guess all the scientists should just close up shop. Will someone get the lights.
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, no, the scientists can hang around the shop and work if they want to and enjoy it. But they should never publish anything or leak it to the general public until they have absolute, irrefutable proof AND the absolute consensus of every other single scientist in the world ...if only one scientist disagrees, they must go back to the drawing board for more study and more proof.

    We'll leave the lights on for the very few who just like to putter around the shop, okay?

    Baron Max
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    also... the natural laws... things... how they operate... can't be explained without an "intelligence" behind it.

    even an atom can't be the result of mere "chance"... too many conditions are required for it to be.... nothing is a chance....


    You're indolent uneducated, narrow minded view of the world does not preclude that which is understood and accepted by those who are not.
     
  13. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    But then how are you going to define scientist?

    Proof of what? I cant even prove that you exist.
     
  14. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Well there was just a court ruling in Pennsylvania (?) that ruled against Intellegent Design.

    I agree, it doesn't belong in science. There is absolutely no proof, no observations, or no way to test Intellegent Design. It's a theory, if you can even call it that, as there is no way to even test that theory.

    Intellegence Design is simply philosophy. It's all questions with no way to test anything. It does not belong in a science class which is all about testing theories. I have no problem with Intellegence Design being taught, just not in a science class. It belongs in a philosophical class at the most, but should stay in a religious one.

    - N
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    At most. I don't think that irrational belief in creation can be classified as philosophy.
     
  16. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051219/full/051219-8.html
    Evolution wins Pennsylvania trial
    (hoorah!)

    A federal judge has ruled that teaching intelligent design in US public high schools is unconstitutional.

    On 20 December, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Judge John Jones issued a scathing opinion in which he described a local school board's efforts to promote intelligent design as "breathtaking inanity".


    "This means that as science, intelligent design is effectively dead."

    However,

    "The history of creationism is that it doesn't go extinct... it evolves," he says. "We fully expect that they will come up with a new strategy."


    You can exterminate cockroaches it seems.
     
  17. purple_hairstreak My true colours clash Registered Senior Member

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    So, we're only as intelligent/civilized as apes.
     

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