Creationism does NOT belong in science.

actually, this whole sciforums stinks with intellectualism. i never met so many know-it-alls in my whole life...

sorry... i know that's harsh.:bugeye:

 

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harrykarry, I have never felt a need for god, and I have never heard a nowaday scientist say that "we know all the answers".
Generally most are very amazed of what they migtht discover.

oh and the creatonsim theory even from its beginings is quite doubtful. I better "believe" in space aliens creating the first people than some misterious bored divine being

why thank you

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it is really nice to hear it. I'm proud...
and about your negativism towards this fact -> this is SCIforums not RELIGforums (thank the holy quark it is not

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avatar...i've never felt the need for science either. yet i'm as sure that it has benefited me as much as god has benefited you.

the one-sided manner that religion is attacked in this forum makes me feel like a german citizen during hitler's reign who dares to defend the jews. i can't help but defend the underdog knowing full well i'll get shot.

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I will make no amends for believing in science. Science shows step by step how we get to where we are. Each fact build upon the previous one. Supportable, tested, and verified. No imaginary being required. Religion on the other hand has little to dole out to say do this and this and this in that way and walla! you will get so and so. Come here, touch it, feel it, inspect it.

Somehow religion falls a bit short in that department.

No one has claimed to know all the answers. We learn as we go. There are many blind paths tried for each proven answer.

I do not accept the tag of "know-it-all". I do state what I think.

 

harrykarry

the one-sided manner that religion is attacked in this forum makes me feel like a german citizen during hitler's reign who dares to defend the jews.

Defending the Jews during Hitler's reign was a rational, brave and noble gesture. Big difference.

Defending religion is as irrational as the religion itself.

actually, this whole sciforums stinks with intellectualism. i never met so many know-it-alls in my whole life...

So sorry that our rational views conflict with your irrational views. Some of us must rely on reality in order for the irrational to continue to benefit from sciences contributions, ie. your computer and it's connection to the internet, for example.

You may now continue the religious fantasy already in progress.

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harrykarry:
"the one-sided manner that religion is attacked in this forum makes me feel like a german citizen during hitler's reign who dares to defend the jews."

I'd advise you not to use what my ancestors went through to inflate your already over-filled ego, bitch.

I'd expound more on why you are a sleazy protozoan, but you're not worth the ASCII.

 

Xev is a jew!

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from which country did your ancestors come?

 

I think if you can present better arguments, we know-it-alls wouldn't seem as rude to you

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*Glares at Avatar*

Xev is an athiest, thank you very much.

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Russia, more or less. Fled to Czeslovakia during the Revolution, then fled Czeslovakia (a few converts to Catholicism in order to get out, I'm not exactly sure how this worked), married into well-established American families - of English/Italian descent.

So while I may be quite divorced from my ancestry, I do get a tweee bit pissed by the likes of Harrykarry.

At least, this is as far back as I can trace my ancestry, going from family stories.

Joeman: Roosky=Russian.

I occasionally delete old posts when I'm really booooooored.

 

gee it sucks being a fundamentalist preacher's daughter and junior sciforum member with a major in art

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but you know what those evolutionists say about inbreding so consider me outside dna.

 

Post by all means but on topic...

 

gee it sucks being a fundamentalist preacher's daughter

You could join the ranks of the rationale.

Criteria: Observe. Look for evidence. Use logic and reasoning. Apply critical thinking.

 

What's a female doing with a name like "harry"?

Oh well. Welcome to Sciforums.

I'll be nice now.

As the Q said, apply critical thinking, show evidence for your contentions, and you'll fit in just fine.

 

what were the url's of those two 3d art sites Xev? I can't relocate the thread you mentioned them.

 

Your theory of relativity example can not be experimentally proven but it has physics and mathematical basis. The same is with anti-matter. We haven't found it yet but we know it exists hypothetically. That is science.

Creationism doesn't have any kind of scientific basis whatsoever. Kmguru's innitial condition argument is as good of an argument you will ever hear about. If you ask creationists "Why is the universe 6 billion years old?" Their best counter argument is "because it is made old". It is a theory with no basis therefore I don't consider it a science. No science but just a theory.

 

What's a female doing with a name like "harry"?

Could be Hari Kari:

1/2 parts brandy1/2 parts cointreau
juice of 1/2 orange
shake

Or perhaps:

hara-kiri [Jap.,=belly-cutting], the traditional Japanese form of honorable suicide, also known by its Chinese equivalent, seppuku.

http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0822673.html

Or maybe:

http://sadcassettes.8m.com/harikari.htm

This guy:

http://www.chicagonights.com/features/harrycarry/harry.htm

 

what i "observed" were a lot of evolutionists patting each other on the back.

i also "observed" anger, smugness, and finally boredom. "where can i go to debate this..."

i observe that if i place myself in the underdog position (yes, i'm a german and yes my ancestry did get killed in the same consentration camps for helping the jews, but that's besides the point) then people get very offended and i'm not sure why? did i somehow play the race card unfairly? and i don't think i'm the only one generalizing the other "side" here.

i'm not so big on "evidence" because i'm running low on poroxide but i don't see anyone providing evidence that there isn't a supernatural entity or force out there occasionally interrupting or violating the observed regularities of nature.

all of those "gaps in knowledge" that evolutionists pooh pooh away as nothing....is that the evidence you are talking about?

logic and reason are over-rated because logic would tell me to quit pissing in the wind but i do it anyways and reason is just one of my ridiculous wanna bes.

if i apply critical thinking to this....i come up with something not very nice so i hesitate.... but what the hell... i come up with a bunch of athiests who have really bad relationships with their own father's and so attribute those same characteristics to god. my only evidence of that is all of the above and you're right, it's not scientific.

maybe i sound self-righteous. maybe i'm not playing by the science rules. i probably should have had a better science teacher!!!!!!!!!

 

i come up with a bunch of athiests who have really bad relationships with their own father's and so attribute those same characteristics to god.

I've never heard that one before. Rather Freudian with Jungian undertones.

gee it sucks being a fundamentalist preacher's daughter

You could just be yourself, rather then the daughter of a fundamentalist preacher.