Creation questions

Discussion in 'Religion' started by davewhite04, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    To Christians(obviously site rules says anyone can post, public forum etc.):

    Some questions...

    Is the sea powerful enough to kill the(or most, T-REX etc.) mighty dinosaurs(the flood)?
    Who confused the language of man(tower of babel)?

    These are pivotal moments in history(Christian) and they are not metaphors if you believe the bible(Old Testament), as i do.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Well since the Catholic church recognises the acceptance of the evidence and science and theories about the BB and evolution, it doesn't throw a real good light on the bible I would imagine.
     
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  5. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I said "Christian" not "Catholic".

    Thanks

    EDIT: Added " due to a grammar error.
     
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  7. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    So Catholics aren't Christians?
     
  8. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    True, but this could get complicated... Catholics I would love to hear from!
     
  9. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Nice to know I can now call you a self-confessed Creationist.
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    i knew i ignored you for a reason... might read your posts once you've evolved somewhat.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    nah i'll not ignore you, fire away
     
  12. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Says the guy threatening with damnation and hellfire.
     
  13. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    i genuinely do not know what you mean? i mean i can see a way you might take it that way but it is illogical.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I believe most Christians would also accept both on the evidence available.
    The bible is an obscure book, written in an obscure age, by obscure men.
    Oh, by the way, I'm a Catholic born and raised...No excommunication has been commenced as yet, [if they still do that sort of thing] and I was an Altar Boy to boot.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Creationists are to Christians, what ISIL is to Muslims.
    The fanatical crazy extreme of both religions.
     
  16. Bells Staff Member

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    Many would find believing in the old testament to be illogical. And yet..

    Where do I even begin..

    Let's start with your dishonesty and misrepresentation.

    If you believe in the old testament, then you are a young earth creationist, which you laughed at being called a young earth creationist and queried where you had supposedly rejected evolution, in the evolution denial thread and then said the earth was 3.5 billion years old. Yet you claim you believe in the old testament.

    So much so that you are questioning if the dinosaurs possibly died in the flood (and somehow missed the ark apparently). Which means you somehow question if humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

    In other words, you are a young earth creationist who believes that dinosaurs and humans coexisted - as young earth creationists believe, like they believe in the old testament. In fact, you even say that these are pivotal moments in history...

    It hurts to laugh..
     
  17. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    You did - from paddoboy (post #2) - which you then dismissed for being about Catholicism.
     
  18. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Thou shall create me in your own image, thou shall write a book and invent something called a bible. Thou shall create me with your minds, thou shall have a battle of infinite time to prove I exist against science, and science will have an infinite battle in time to prove I do not exist.
    Thou shall put me in a box dead and alive at the same time, thou all shall realise in time that I and science exist in the mind and are creations of the mind.
     
  19. Jason.Marshall Banned Banned

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    Its funny how you all try and belittle Dave but he is more aware of the truth and what is going on here on earth than any of you that have responded on this thread. I know exactly the reason you all feel the way you do and one day I will tell you but that day is not this day perhaps you will figure it all out before I can tell you obviously if you learn it on your own you will have a greater comprehension of it all just like Morpheus said in the matrix "You cannot be told what the Matrix is you have to see it for yourself"
     
  20. Jason.Marshall Banned Banned

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    Me and you will go to Kongo it is rumoured they still have mystical creatures there I do not know this for sure but it would be an excellent location to add to the tour. There is also evidence of really large prehistoric animals living deep in the oceans I want to go dive and search for them myself am going alone I wont bring you into such a dangerous environment its not safe these animals are larger than the largest known sea creatures on record they can bite through solid steel ships this has happened already in present day while others was looking for the creatures.
     
  21. Bells Staff Member

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    Errrr...

    Just to confirm...

    Do you believe that prehistoric creatures, perhaps dinosaurs, still exist in deep oceans, that there is evidence of this, and you are saying that they pose a danger to shipping because they can bite through solid steel ships (I don't even...) and that they have already done this in the "present day" while people were looking for these so called creatures?

    You need to support such.. ermm.. fantastical claims with the evidence you say exists.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
     
  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    The first question seems rather meaninglessly open-ended without further qualification. After all, a lot of things in nature, the sea included, are "powerful enough" to kill a lot of forms of life, if they were to behave in an untypical way. For example the radiation from stars, or a meteorite, or changes in atmospheric composition, or any number of things. So I think you need to rephrase this question, to make clear what in particular you think the sea might be doing in order to kill these dinosaurs. We can then address the question on that basis. (If you mean the biblical flood, then it would be good if you would explain exactly what you think that entailed, scientifically speaking, since we do not want to get into any word games about the meaning of such concepts.)

    The second issue is in my view a classic example of question-begging, since it assumes that there was first "a language" of man, to become "confused" at some point. I think most people would assume that languages arose and evolved in history in the same way they do now, that is, diverging in communities that are not in close contact, and converging in communities that are. So most people would not buy the implied presumption that there ever was a single language, in the form we know them today.
     
  23. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I realise we might need to hive this off to another thread, but I'd be quite interested to understand why you think Catholics are not Christians. It seems rather a perverse and extreme point of view.
     

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