Congressman Shot in Mass Shooting at Baseball Practice for GOP House Members in Virginia

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kittamaru, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    http://people.com/crime/virginia-police-shooting-congress-members-baseball/

    So it begins...? Our government has ceased listening to words and protests, so people are resorting to their only remaining option?

    *shakes head* I really don't want it to come to this...
     
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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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  5. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I wonder if the shooter is a "leftist" or a real, actual leftist.

    Okay, grim humor probably isn't the best.

    Nobody''s dead, yet, so there's our good news.
     
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  7. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    James T. Hodgkinson. Tentative assessment from his social media is that he's an ex-(?) Bernie Sanders supporter and arguably antifa (animus toward Trump, GOP). Upset about heath care, among other issues. Supposedly in his mid sixties. Only wounded, hospitalized.
    EDIT: Now dead, according to Trump.
     
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  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  9. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    One report on radio is that apparently an early departing individual actually encountered the shooter (Hodgkinson from Illinois) just prior to the incident and talked with him. Hodgkinson asked who was practicing there or who was on the baseball field -- Republicans or Democrats? So perhaps only a quasi-planned act, if there's any credence to the report.
     
  10. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Shooter is dead.
     
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  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    If it was a planned event, and there was probably some planning, it wasn't a well planned event.


    Now congressmen are all kumbaya. How long will it last? I expect not long. After all, there is a whole right wing entertainment industry founded upon hate and lies. If these politicians want to clam it down, they need more than words. The need action. Refusing to give Obama's Supreme Court nominee a hearing isn't exactly consistent with kumbaya. Right wing entertainment isn't exactly consistent with kumbaya.
     
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  13. Capracus Valued Senior Member

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    To enhance the security of the American people Trump will propose a blue state travel ban.

    To conservatives 614 will be the new 911.
     
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  14. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I think most of us are on the same page that political assassinations are a bad thing.
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Well let's face it,
    You have a wacko president who is obviously sick being supported by a congress that believes they can salvage something from this circus... what do you expect the weak minded but passionate people of the USA to attempt to do?
    In other words, it aint over yet!
     
  16. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently reinstatement of something equivalent to the Fairness Doctrine is still a pretty bleak prospect.[2] Also would probably be pointless, anyway, if it was that impotent in terms of recreational programming with a political theme.[1] A station merely had to dispense a small percentage of "something different" at other times, not producers being required to include such contrast in their particular radio or TV show.

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    [1] Steve Rendell: There are many misconceptions about the Fairness Doctrine. For instance, it did not require that each program be internally balanced, nor did it mandate equal time for opposing points of view. And it didn’t require that the balance of a station’s program lineup be anything like 50/50.

    Nor, as Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly claimed, was the Fairness Doctrine all that stood between conservative talkshow hosts and the dominance they would attain after the doctrine’s repeal. In fact, not one Fairness Doctrine decision issued by the FCC had ever concerned itself with talkshows. Indeed, the talkshow format was born and flourished while the doctrine was in operation. Before the doctrine was repealed, right-wing hosts frequently dominated talkshow schedules, even in liberal cities, but none was ever muzzled. The Fairness Doctrine simply prohibited stations from broadcasting from a single perspective, day after day, without presenting opposing views. [...] As a guarantor of balance and inclusion, the Fairness Doctrine was no panacea. It was somewhat vague, and depended on the vigilance of listeners and viewers to notice imbalance. But its value, beyond the occasional remedies it provided, was in its codification of the principle that broadcasters had a responsibility to present a range of views on controversial issues.
    --The Fairness Doctrine

    [2] The Fairness Doctrine has been strongly opposed by prominent conservatives and libertarians who view it as an attack on First Amendment rights and property rights. Editorials in The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times in 2005 and 2008 said that Democratic attempts to bring back the Fairness Doctrine have been made largely in response to conservative talk radio. [...] In June 2008, Barack Obama's press secretary wrote that Obama (then a Democratic U.S. Senator from Illinois and candidate for President): “Does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters ... [and] considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible." [...] In the 111th Congress (January 2009 to January 2011), the Broadcaster Freedom Act of 2009 was introduced to block reinstatement of the Doctrine. --Fairness Doctrine-#Reinstatement

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  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/bernie-sanders-supporters.html?_r=0

    It was not "enough" back then but now it is enough... pathetic.

    8 years of Obama being some-kind of Muslim Manchurian candidate, but now they think pointing out Trump is a complete fuck wade is "melodrama" and "apocalyptic terms". The violent tea party literally blew out a congress woman's brains but now that they are feeling the burn, now they think this is enough.

    Free speech [mic drop]
     
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