colonising another planet or star

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by euphrosene, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. jumpercable 6EQUJ5 'WOW' Registered Senior Member

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    Send the 'all' of the current Republican administration in the White House on the first ship to colonize a nearby star. They did the same with Australia. Wait.....Hmmmmm. I guess Australia was originally a penal colony. Anyway, it would be the same thing I guess.
     
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  5. euphrosene Delusions of Divinity? Registered Senior Member

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    Great answers - in the main. But nothing much on whether another planet or star would already be colonised by a superior life form... which is what I think.

    Of course, as I think someone pointed out, it would take such a phenomenally long time, that evolution could bring the human sentient into harmony with the resident sentient variety.
     
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  7. Roman Banned Banned

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    Food doesn't seem like that big of an issue. Water and sunlight is all it takes to grow stuff. With the proper engineering, I bet you could grow stuff that takes care of all nutritional needs.

    Bet it would taste like shit, though.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Where are you going to grow that food?
     
  9. Roman Banned Banned

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    On the planets surface.
     
  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Don't you need soil to grow plants?
     
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  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Error page.

    You will have to bring the ingredients for jello. You will have to bring fertilizer or a fertilizer plant. You will have to bring green houses if the atmosphere is wrong, or there is native life.

    etc
     
  13. draqon Banned Banned

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    huh no genetic modification mentioned?
     
  14. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    You are going to take a research lab with you and wait a year till the scientists have made a suitable modification? Then wait till they multiplied the seed enough to use it?
     
  15. Roman Banned Banned

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    You ever grow weed in your closet?
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    "...All we need now sergeant is to trace back Roman's ip address to the city in UK he is located and than his address and launch an assault on the drug user."

    "thats how many years?"

    "As long as it takes...as long as it takes"
     
  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    No.

    For your information a human being cannot sustain life on weed alone, although some people have tried.

    Growing of weed inside actually requires a huge amount of energy. Home-growers can often be traced by the electricity bill.

    You would need to set up green houses. How many? Are you going to haul all that equipment with you? How many seeds? Enough for the first harvest and hope the first harvest will turn out ok in terra icognito? Bring enough seeds for 2 or more harvests? bring rations to sustain yourself for 1 or more harvests?

    It will be a logistic nightmare.

    You will have to plan for the unknown.
     
  18. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Send sufficiently advanced nano-tech robots instead of humans. Once they've terraformed the planet, they can build some humans to live there. Even better, they can adjust the humans they build to suit local gravity, atmospheric pressure, etc.
     
  19. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    We don't have nano-bots.

    Let's presume we are going to send colonists tomorrow.
     
  20. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Ok ... since we're hopelessly unprepared and the mission is doomed to fail, I suggest we send the scum of the earth while the rest of us build a Utopia here.
     
  21. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    What if we use what humans are good at: improvisation.

    We give them the stuff they can use for improvisation. Toolkits. Modular designed equipment that can be rebuild for other purposes. A small lab with general stuff. Some means of producing a few antibiotics. And a toolkit to make changes to this production.

    small stuff. Flexible stuff.

    However food will be critical for survival. There will need to be some kind of plan to sustain a certain amount of people for a certain period under any circumstance.
     
  22. Roman Banned Banned

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    Of course it's a logistic nightmare. YOU'VE JUST MOVED 1000 PEOPLE TO ANOTHER PLANET!!

    Is energy really going to be a problem when you've mastered space flight? Set up a fusion reactor and you got all the energy you need. Or, if the atmosphere is thin to none, have the massive solar array in orbit beam the energy down in microwave form.

    Or just use good ol nukular power.

    It'd take several years to set up a colony, no doubt. The first few probes sent to the planet would then be followed by dummy ships that deposit rations and materials to the building site. Maybe you have robots set everything up before people arrive, and you've got a thriving hydroponic system running before the people ever step foot on the planet.

    Nutrients could be shipped in whatever form is densest. Probably as raw elements, then you'd have the colony's chemist mix em up once you got their. Turn nitrogen into ammonia, etc.

    In an enclosed space, everything would have to be recycled. Setting up a functioning ecosystem would be hardest. All organic material would have to be put back into the plants, water and CO2 would have to filtered out somehow. Ideally, plants would do all this. The air, water and waste filtration systems could just be huge algal mats. The algae could then be harvested and either turned into food, or decomposed and used as fertilizer.

    As for more complex proteins, you could just synthesize them. Protein vats. Energy and amino acids go in, meat comes out.
     
  23. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I was thinking about bringing rats. Let them escape on the ship and colony and then hunt them.

    Then again, rats will probably find a way to kill us all and become the master species of the new planet.
     

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