Lucy I agree with all of the above. But when a person keeps harping on andon and on and on about the crimes of theists and Abrahamists and Indians and Muslims and Christians and the evils of all religion, its odd when they post in threads where Jews are committing crimes and post nothing relating to religion. Thats all. Again, I don't expect that anyone would comment on everything but when one comments on everything but the one, thats a glaring ommission. I don't consider circumcision as abusive, although I do think you should wait for consent.