Circumcision is a crime now in Germany

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Syzygys, Jun 26, 2012.

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    ... what... the actual fuck...?

    I really don't know what to say to all of that... that's simply terrifying. To think, people are so afraid of their own sexuality, their own desires, as to feel it necessary to inflict that upon others... that's just horrific.
     
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    I think what is scarier is that circumcisions never really went away after it became so popular because people thought it was a cure for masturbatory insanity.. It is now part of culture in many places in the West. Adopted for moronic reasons and it never really went away again even after people realised that masturbation was not unnatural or perverted.

    As opposed to many other cultural and societal norms which have been outlawed (such as binding feet), that one still lingers. And what is worse is that the medical reasons came after it became so widely accepted for stopping people from diddling themselves or enjoying sex.
     
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    You're right... that is absolutely terrifying. We've let it become so ingrained in our society that, for many people, we don't think twice about it...
     
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    Dear I am a young man, therefore I encounter specific sexual talks more than the elders. In some conversation the few" guys discuss their bizarre fantasies that will make you sick and it is because of pornography and misogyny that gives false ideas.
     
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    I don't mean that a experienced person like you would do this. Their are lot of people I know who can go that way.
    I watch porn for not any special sexual fetishes but for some observations and it is not a every day phenomena.
     
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    No. And that is because often, people do it to their children because it was done to them. So they look the same.

    It has become a tradition.
     
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    I should have written most men loose interest while few don't loose, it depends upon the conditions.
     
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    Extreme trauma from male circumcision causes damage to areas of brain

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048907_male_circumcision_brain_damage_child_abuse.html#ixzz3zrpcuTnN
     
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    It's my understanding that circumcision is hygienic. It has never stood in the way of sexual desire as far as I can tell. As far as traumatizing the recipient, I can't recall the episode.
     
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    Each year 100,000 Jewish and 10 million Muslim circumcisions are performed, while in Africa the number is 9 million. Circumcision predates Islam and Judaism.
     
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    Actually, there are many reasons why people have practiced circumcision. Masturbation was just one. Circumcision was thought to prevent a host of diseases. It was recommended by physicians for those reasons. Circumcision wasn't common before physicians began recommending it in the late 19th century. But the practice of circumcision goes back eons. It was done for religious reasons and that's still the case to this day. So there just isn't one reason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Middle_East.2C_Africa_and_Europe
     
  18. Bells Staff Member

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    Err okay Joe.

    You do realise that I had covered pretty much all of that in the many previous pages a couple of years ago, yes? That taking one post, out of context of the many many other posts I made in this thread just seems a tad strange.. Yes?

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    Err okay Bells, you are being more than a little disingenuous.

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    It's very evident from your conversation you chose to hype the salacious rather than report the truth. Circumcision didn't become popular because of some mass masturbation phobia. It became popular because physicians believed it was more hygienic. For decades now, people have been debating he hygienic benefits of circumcision. It was an issue when my son was born about 28 years ago. When my wife and I faced the issue, masturbation wasn't even discussed. The notion is totally absurd. Until now, I have never read or heard anyone associate masturbation with circumcision.

    The reason circumcisions became popular and remained popular was because they were believed to be hygienic. Physicians told people that was the case for more than a century. Now that story is changing or at least being questioned. But in any case, it has absolutely nothing to do with any fear of masturbation.

    Do you not remember writing, " I think what is scarier is that circumcisions never really went away after it became so popular because people thought it was a cure for masturbatory insanity."
     
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    no your just being a self important dick again joe.
    really than why are there several published articles in medical journals stating that?
    that came latter.
    and pray tell what does the discussion now have to do with it came it about? another extremely bad argument made by you based on personal experiences and biases rather than facts.

    which is correct. go look up kellog
     
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    LOL...well you can always be counted on for illogical argument, personal attacks, name calling and misinformation.

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    I suggest you read my previous reference PJ.
     
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    Which you have taken out of context of all my other posts in this thread on the subject at hand.

    If you wish to not set up strawman's and take my posts out of context, my comments about circumcision start from around page 4-5 in this thread. If you had bothered to read the posts, you'd see that I addressed the point you are trying to make by taking my post out of context, back in post number 91.. On page 5. In fact, in that post, back in 2012, I address the history of circumcision and how it became so common among non-religious groups and the doctors who took up the practice and why they did so.. It wasn't just religious. They did so for a variety of reasons, including - and there is a lot of text on this - to cure masturbation which was considered to be a mental disorder. And by page 6, we were discussing scientific studies about the spread of HIV and other STD's.. But please, carry on ignoring what has already been said and taking my posts completely out of context of everything else I had said in this thread.

    A word of advice, joepistole, when you enter a thread a few years old, and you have not bothered to read past the last page to see what had been said several years ago and by whom, it just makes you look silly and lazy.
     
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