Circumcision is a crime now in Germany

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Syzygys, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Even and specially for religious reason:

    http://www.rt.com/news/germany-religious-circumcision-ban-772/

    "A German court has ruled that parents can’t have their sons circumcised on religious grounds in a move which has angered Muslim and Jewish groups in the country.

    The court in Cologne decided that a legal guardian’s authority over a child does not allow them to subject them to the procedure, which the court called minor bodily harm, reports The Financial Times Deutschland.

    Neither does religious freedom, which is protected by law in Germany, give grounds for such decisions to be taken for the children, the ruling says."
     
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  3. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    This will conflict with the emerging medical consensus that circumcision is the most effective method discovered so far to halt the HIV/AIDS epidemic. It's been working miracles in Africa. Not circumcising your little boy could be construed as similar to not getting him vaccinated against poliomyelitis: Failure to comply with public health measures.
     
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  5. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I could counter argue, that there is a huge difference between living in empowerished Africa and rich and educated Germany.

    Also, if you cut off the breast of young girls, they will never get breast cancer later on. Just think about it for a while...
     
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  7. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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  8. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Horray! This is a fantastic development.
     
  10. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    That's bullshit. Africans don't use fucking condoms. That's like saying the best method to prevent AIDS in Africa is to cover all the men with excrement. Sure, it would work, but it's stupid.
     
  11. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Unbelievable. What will the penalty be should these Untermensch insist on circumcising their male children as they have done for thousands of years?

    Has this judge conceived of a final solution to the circumcision problem?
     
  12. Balerion Banned Banned

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    This is great news. No more genital mutilation!
     
  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    What's the typical punishment for slicing up a child without medical necessity?
     
  14. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Good, no one would argue that FGM should be allowed for religious reasons and neither should MGM and BTW mad, CONDOMS are the best method of preventing HIV and it has been shown time after time that whatever protection it gives against the african strain is NOT transferable to the more virulent US strain which has infected the rest of the world
     
  15. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Well, sandpapering the doctor's penis sounds fine to me...
     
  16. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    Wonderful!! Just great!! Way to Go Germany!

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  17. baftan ******* Valued Senior Member

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    I thought about it and I increase the challenge: If we prevent all pregnancies there will be no medical problems in the future whatsoever...
     
  18. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Very smart move, Germany. Circumcision is one of the most barbaric procedures conceived of. There was never any sense in removing a piece of living, functional tissue that men evolved with for a reason.

    Your analogy is extremely bad. There's a better way to avoid getting HIV: don't abuse IV drugs and don't have unsafe sex with skanks.

    As well, HIV is not an epidemic in Germany and other developed countries.
     
  19. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed, one of the main reasons circumcisions are still performed in the USA is because it's a huge moneymaker for hospitals. It began only a few decades ago, when jewish doctors surreptitiously urged young couples to have the procedure done for the sake of "hygiene."

    Those in this thread who have been circumcised (such as madanthonywayne) defend the practice because they don't like thinking of themselves as "damaged goods." Attempting to validate the sick procedure that was done to them is their only way of coping.

    Circumcision is also on the decline in the USA. In many states, medicaid no longer subsidizes circumcision, meaning you have to pay for it yourself. People are waking up.
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I've been mutilated too, but you don't see me defending it.
     
  21. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Conflating male circumcision with female genital mutilation is stupid. That's why we call it "mutilation," and reject the term "female circumcision" in the first place.

    Imputing some kind of penile insecurity complex onto people who are okay with male circumcision is offensive trolling - as is typical of WillNever.

    Likewise, WillNever's assertions on the history, prevalence and motivations for circumcision are false and misleading - again, as is typical of his output.
     
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  22. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed...and well said. Lets hope this intolerance to religious insanity spreads like wildfire.
     
  23. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Have you ever seen it done on a newborn? The cries are torturous, its not like regular crying. Take a look if you can stomach it. I would smash the skull of any doctor who tried to do this to my child. Its completely unnecessary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PTtmOwqJF8&feature=related
     

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