Child Sex Dolls for Pedophiles?

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  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Would you?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. We're talking about an aberration where someone is sexually aroused by something not sexual, but in fact quite harmful.

    To pretend they are Not Our Problem is copping out of our responsibility.
     
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  5. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    No one is saying that but pretending that they are not ill, isn't the answer. And as a society, we also have a responsibility to protect kids, and those who can't speak out for themselves.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I think that was his point. It has the potential to backfire.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    They are ill. Who thinks otherwise?

    We certainly do. And no one has said otherwise.
     
  9. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    That's what you're missing. The domination, hurt, and pain they cause their victims is what is arousing to them. No one is pretending they're not our problem, but would you try to help a drug addict to get off drugs, or would you just give them clean needles to continue doing drugs? The latter is the easier move, not necessarily a responsible one.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Now you're talking about what we would do to help them with their illness.

    That did not seem to be what you were feeling earlier.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That is not necessarily true. Pedophelia and sadism do not necessarily go hand-in-hand.
     
  12. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.!!!
     
  13. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    If pedophiles act on their desires, then yes it does go hand-in-hand. Pedophiles don't need to act on their ''desires,'' if that is what you mean.
     
  14. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    How about a cultural acceptance of providin dolls to pedofiles... which woud cause fewer actual children to be harmed.???
     
  15. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Unintended consequences can be a bitch. But I don't think you or I or anyone not prone to aberrant behavior this is going to say, "Hey, Bob has a child sex doll so I guess it's okay!". I do think we tend to view crime, especially crimes like pedophilia, as the product of evil and not a problem of brain chemistry and physiology, when the latter may be the case. Maybe by treating violent crime pragmatically, and not morally, we can slowly bring it to an end.

    If you have to ask how anyone can do something so horrible as X Y and Z, the answer must be, they are different; either due to environment or genetics.

    Psychopaths are far more common than we ever knew. They are born that way. But they are prone to violent behavior mainly if they were abused themselves.
     
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  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Pedophilia includes minors. A female pedophile teacher attracted to a 15 year old boy may not necessarily have sadistic intentions. It is not necessarily a specific desire to harm - even if harm is the inevitable outcome. They are screwed up, no question, but that does not necessarily mean they want to hurt.
     
  17. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    No one is talking about evil. I said above, I don't believe in evil. What most likely causes it, studies have shown, is that many pedophiles and rapists had abusive childhoods, some sexually abusive. That's where it stems from. No one is born a rapist. No one is born a pedophile.
     
  18. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Well sure... but thats NOT politically corect thought.!!!
     
  19. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think that's realistic.
     
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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Which is why, as a society, it behooves us to examine it rationally and - in the appropriate context - dispassionately.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I do not think that dolls would be a good idea.

    You don't give an addict that which they are addicted to.

    What would be next? Dolls for serial murderers?

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  22. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Agree.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    But some people become sexually abusive even with normal upbringings. There's no one magic bullet.
     
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