We can know more today about how to raise healthy children than in the past, thanks to all the research. I am not sure where the abuse started in my family. I think we all have complaints about our parents. I did not grow up in a happy family and that was painful, but I am not sure what I experienced was abuse. It was not the best possible parenting. Our understanding of good parenting has changed, and potentially we could have a better reality than ever before, but we are not getting to a better reality together. What I do know for sure is my daughter married an abusive man. We are talking go to prison abuse, not just personal opinion. I know my grandchildren were abused and that I was powerless to stop it. I know when I tried to stop the abuse, my oldest granddaughter thought the fighting between me and her mother was my fault. Now it is happening all over again, only this time it is my granddaughter who is the well meaning, but terrible mother, and it is her son who thinks I am bad guy, because of what happened when I tried to stop the abuse to him. My granddaughter is so dysfunctional, she lost her job, her apartment forced her out for behavior reasons, and she has even been thrown off the public bus. She is homeless, and can not use public transportation, and her 5 years old son is living like this, and walking many, many miles a day because they have no place to live and can not use the city bus. But the abuse does not stop here. My granddaughter is mated with another woman who was also abused and is full of anger that she constantly dumps on the child. I took them into my home, and tried to stay out of it, by staying in a back room, but how much abuse should a person ignore before "interfering"? Calmly I tried to increase awareness of the constant angry voice directed at the child, the cutting comments that were hurtful, and excessive expectations of a 5 year old child to read at a high school level book. Like the anti social mothers are home schooling and have made no effort to understand how to prepare a child for reading. He was taken out of school when he shit his pants, and the school was thrilled to see him leave. My 5 year old grandson thought it was okay to shit his pants, because the teacher did not immediately let him use the restroom. I am talking serious anti social logic here. They are receiving welfare and food stamps, and everyone has been to jail at least once. Let me be very clear about this. These people are a burden on society. My heart is broken and my nights are not peaceful, and my days are a constant fight against depression, because I am bonding to my family, while helpless to stop all the abuse. I am not alone. What I am talking about is behind the old people's concern that things are getting worse not better. Oh, there is research and so much potential for things to get better and better, but we are not moving in that direction together. Abuse is passed on from generation to generation, and the social burden increases as these people have children. What do you think about this?