Catholic, not Christian

Discussion in 'Religion' started by chris4355, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    why do all Catholics always correct me saying "catholic, not christian" anytime i call them christians?
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    You know I've never asked any Catholic that question because I never get that personal with people about their beliefs, at least in person. Perhaps here we will find out.
     
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  5. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps it's because they are brought up to believe that they are members of the One True Holy Apostolic Church. All others are in error.

    Well, that';s what they tolds me when I was a kid; I didn't believe it then ...
     
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  7. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Could be a clarification rather than a correction. They want it clear what kind of christian they are.
     
  8. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe because they are pompous.
     
  9. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    At least some acknowledge that they're "not Christian", eh? Protestants agree, yet they're still regarded as Christians by the world's standards.
     
  10. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    The only clarifiction/distinction they are making is that they are right , all others are wrong. I've been there; believe me !
     
  11. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    When I went to a Christian school it was always "I'm Christian, not Catholic" I was raised Catholic and it seemed that Cathoilcs do consider themselves Christian, but Christians want to make the distinction between Catholisim and Christianity. I remember my teachers saying something about worshiping Mary, but she obviously had no understanding of the Catholic faith, so I'm not sure what the reasons are. As far as I can tell all Christain religions are the same they just nit-pick at the Bible differently. There are only minor differences between all of Christian religions, Catholisim is just the strict rule abiding one that others may find to be a bit to "uptight" I suppose.
     
  12. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Mary, you're a little off. There are MANY christian sects that are far more strict. What you don't see in them that you do in "Catholism" is the large number of abuses of power. IE, wars, sexual abuse of children, taxation and violence.
     
  13. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    As I have already said, Catholics consider themselves in the priveliged position of belonging to the One True Church. Mary and the hierarchy of saints are beside the point.
     
  14. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Mary is neither here nor there, thats just what my teacher said. She was just making up an answer to explain why my school didn't like the Catholic religion when one of the girls in my class asked. What traditions do certain Christian sects practice that is more strict or uptight than Cathoilcs?
     
  15. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, thats true I think Catholics do feel a certain kind of pride because they are the original Christian church and the other Christian sects that have developed since their break with the Catholic church, like what 400-500 years ago are like rebellious teenagers.
     
  16. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Head coverings and long dresses for women.
    No drinking,dancing or modern music.
    Hell, the Amish don't even have electricity or drive cars.
     
  17. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    She was not making up an answer. Among the many differences between Catholics and other Christians is that Catholics pray to the Virgin Mary and the saints, Protestants are against this because they believe one should pray only to god.

    Thee are numerous other doctrinal differences that seperate Catholics from other Christians.
     
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  18. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    1 and a half Christian religions isn't many. I've never lived with the Amish, so I can't speak for their religion. I did live with Mennonites (which are an off shoot of the Amish) and their religious practices are no where near as tedious as Catholisim. Most Catholics today are not very strict, unorthodox if you will. But in orthodox Catholic churches which I have painfully been subjected to is very strict. Women do have to wear dresses or skirts and the head is supposed to be covered with a hat or veil. Mass is hours long and (not when I went) can be in another language... aka Latin. So no one knows what the priest is saying. Not only do you have to the Bible you have to know the Catholic Bible. All of the saints, and go through a long grueling process just to have reconciliation and holy communion. This then leads to conformation and this has nothing to do with lifestyle this is just within the church. Other Christian groups may have more strict requirements for the way one lives, but in church Catholics certainly have more rules. To abide by while you're there. I actually didn't mind sitting through a Mennonite service.
     
  19. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, sorry. I was only 11 at the time and I felt like she didn't really know much about the Catholic faith. Its sounded like she was just pulling stuff out of the air, but like I said I was only 11.
     
  20. pjdude1219 screw watergate i want to know about zaragate Valued Senior Member

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    there are older sects of christianity
     
  21. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know where you have been but a few things do not quite stack up.

    The only use of the bible at Mass is of the one on the altar from which a priest reads the chosen portions of the gospels. Ther is a first gospel and a d second gospel.

    The Latin ( Tridentine ) Mass is no longer said other than by a few " rebels " who want to maintain the status quo. For many years, Masse have been offered in the local language.

    If a book is used by worshippers it is a Missal. This contains the text of Masses for every day of the year, for the dead and so on The Bible does not feature prominently in Catholicism but an annotated version is available for those who want one. The argument used in favour of such a Bible is that scholars have worked out and interpreted parts of the text which are difficult to understand. Contrast this with the number of Protestant sects which are the result of varying interpretations of the King James version.

    There are lots of other differences, too numerous to mention here.

    I had better add that I do not belierve a word of any of it but I know what I do because I grew up a Catholic even though I never asked to join.

    I hope this clarifies thing for you.
     
  22. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Catholics believe their unique position is due to what they call apostolic succession. They claim that at the last supper, Christ gave ( Saint ) Peter the keys of the kingdom of heaven. A papal flag carries an eblem of keys.

    What is conveniently overlooked is the fact that all the early Popes were more intewrested in wealth and worldly acquisitions than in spiritual matters. SAlso, there were cases of more than one Pope at a time. This came about when rival Popes were supported by rival countries, mainly France and Italy.
     
  23. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    (I'm assuming you live in America...) America is historically a Protestant country, and we inherited from the English a suspicion of Catholicism. In the 1800s Christianity in America was heavily sectionalistic, and even different Protestant sects had an edgy relationship; Protestants in America were often united, though, by anti-Catholicism. As Austrian, Irish, and Italian immigrants flooded into America in the late 1800s, anti-Catholicism intensified, and the Americanization Movement developed to turn immigrants into Protestant, English-speaking Americans, but of course, Catholicism continued to exist. Protestants and Catholics were also divided, stereotypically, by party affiliation. While many Protestants were Republican, Catholics were heavily Democratic. I think it is probably due to America's history of rivalry between Protestantism and Catholicism that the two groups remain distinct. And the term Christian is generally applied to Protestants because, due to America's Protestant tradition, Protestantism is viewed as the true form of Christianity.
     

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