Catcalling -- creepy or a compliment?

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Wow. That's a special kind of low that is. I have to point out most of the men I know have a brain and can think. They aren't confused about what's appropriate or not since, like I said, it's just common sense. I'd be really upset if that happened and I'm not sure I'd have acted as rationally as you. That bitch would have been wrapped in chicken wire and given a sailor's burial.

 

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I'd agree with that. A lot of people act like animals (even most animals conduct themselves better than that). I never get catcalls because I am a bloke but I have seen people act like that or got abuse from the same people. Every time I walk round the city centre or even my local area people never cease to amaze me how low they can get.

 

In much the same way as when a pack of screaming women try to humiliate men. It's not about trying to tell that person they find them attractive and wouldn't mind going out for a nice quiet meal and a bottle of Chinanti. I'm sure the guy who ran up behind me and grabbed my ass and tit didn't think to himself, "Hmm, I think this woman likes the forward approach". He got the shock of his life when I roared like a lion. Lol, I still remember him legging it away. I hope he didn't end up doing that to someone who wouldn't have fought to the death. If anyone tried it he'd walk away a she. Dogs are stronger than cats but a dog knows it's not a clever idea to get into a fight with a cat, eyes don't grow back that easily.

I wouldn't have avoided that building site, I'd have walked past there every day and looked right at him. Fuck letting that idiot humiliate me. I'd make sure he felt uneasy by holding my head high and walking past that animal, making sure he knew he hadn't done anything except bring it on. Heh.

 

Really?

Well, there's two parts to it. The one part part—

"Whistling at is not raping."​

—is perplexing, but only if I let it be. It makes a fine punch line, but that's all it is. I'm not sure what the value of the point is either way. But, like I said, only if I let it be. It is easy enough to move onto the next, which is a simplification of rather grotesque proportion:

"Women who find it creepy should grow some skin and stop whining about how all men are creepy bastards who want to sexually violate them."​

It is rather a curious generalization.

To work with two generalizations of slightly less ridiculous proportions, we might consider the feminists and the Christian prudes. You know, they're both generally myths. Certainly hypersensitive people like this exist, but they're both generally exploited well out of proportion to their real magnitude and influence.

But the feminists, as such, would be the ones worrying about how all the men are icky, creepy bastards who want to violate them.

The Christian prudes, to the other, just worry about the icky, creepy catcalling bastards, or criminal-looking bastards, or Mexican-looking bastards, or whatever, who want to violate them. In this case, it's not all men.

And then, of course, to invoke yet another silly generalization, there are the skanks and hussies who are offended because this or that man simply isn't good enough to treat them so poorly.

Even in generalizations, we've managed to show the problem of your generalization. Because I'm sure we could find more generalizations. White men, black men, fat men, hairy men, old men ... there's a bitch or a ho or a prude or a feminazi out there prone to whine about mere segments of the male population.

Grotesque, I tells ya.

 

Tessie:

How is being whistled at or complimented an invitation to sex?

Women compliment each other all the time.

Lucifer's angel:

Wouldn't that mound of stretch-marked lard be blocking your view?

An aging mother like you should be buying the guy lunch for his mercy.

Mwaha...

Bells:

That's why they only do it in groups or in public.

He's a spineless worm and he'd know it all alone with you-- ever had one all alone?

I wouldn't so readily mislable attraction to beauty for abuse, though. I find Mozart's Requiem Mass achingly beautiful and am prompted to say so

Is this abuse?
So should a man feeling the same for a girl be abuse if he comments or whistles?

 

For that matter-

Tess:

Well, you want to act so superior to generalizations, you've smeared all 'cat calls' into a grand generalization of being an invitation to sex.

Oh?

 

I don't know if "creepy" should be the word used. Creepy to me is more like the guy who would feign disgust over the guys that cat-call, to spark up a conversation with a woman as part of a devious long-term plot to fuck her.
The alarming thing is women seem utterly unable to detect this kind of creepy, and maybe that's what makes it so spine chillingly creepy.

Catcalling is dumb, crass and offensive, but "creepy" to me requires a more sly sinister edge to it than that.
Cat calling is almost uber-not-creepy, it's the opposite of creepy really. Which doesn't make it good. Good would be normal, in the middle. Not creepily fake nice or a crass buffoon.

 

Every relationship has to start somewhere...

 

Bells, implying "nice tits! ass! cooch! Your mouth was meant for my pole" is quite a bit different from explicitly saying it. From what you're saying it sounds like men literally walk up to you and say "Hello Bells, it's my best bet that you have a tasty vagina. I would like to insert my penis in between your breasts and..." You're equating something like that to a simple whistle. Well, it's not the same. It's crazy the kinds of sexual implications you hear on television, but if they actually made those innuendos explicit, it would be porn--not something that can be aired on TV. All I'm saying is that the two are not the same and that you're incredibly wrong.

 

So you have no problems with someone whistling at you? Isn't whistling cat calling? I still somewhat doubt that there are a lot of men who say "Nice vag! I'd like to rug my penis in your places!" Where do you live?

 

I have been whistled, waved, at. No kidding where are these men who say that stuff? I have NEVER heard anything like that, or heard any stories from friends anywhere close to what Bells is describing.

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Its objectification, pure and simple. However, unless it happens in an in my face way, I rarely acknowledge it. I don't get embarassed or blush or anything. I just ignore it.

 

Women can be stupid too. If men whistle or wave they will get all pissed off.
But if no man ever noticed them, they aren't happy with that either.

Personally, If I go by a construction site and get some whistles and waves, I take it
as a compliment. Don't tell me women don't like to feel attractive and get an ego boost once in a while. It is bullshit!! Women don't get dressed up nice and put on makeup, do their hair...to go unnoticed.

 

I dress to please myself, or on occasion people who I care about. Some random guy getting an erection on my behalf is not an issue I ever address or even remotely care about. If a construction worker never waved or whistled at me, I would not notice the difference.

My sentiments exactly, its crass and offensive.

 

hahahaha brilliant!

 

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