Carl Sagan on UFOs as "legitimate religion"

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  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    A gazillion? Name 10...
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  7. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Oh you want REAL unexplained things

    Look for anything at the cutting edge of science

    Gravity

    Big Bang

    Dark Matter

    Dark Energy

    Different temperatures on the Sun

    Why polar bears are left handed and most humans are right handed

    Still not clear why sleep is required

    Yawning not really explained nor why it appears to be catching

    Evolution took sea animals onto land but unknown why some returned

    Why light has its particular speed? Why not a few hundred klms slower or faster?

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  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You're the one claiming there's a gazillion unexplained phenomena. Don't blame me if you fucked up and posted the wrong shit.

    Wrong. All the phenomena you list has scientific explanations. You're ignorance of them not withstanding. So much for your claim.

    And FYI---

    "False Fact: Polar Bears are left handed

    Where this myth came from is now lost in the dark recesses of history. The widespread of this misnomer is quite extraordinary with more google results announcing it as gospel than not. But in reality, scientists who have spent their working lives studying polar bears have found that they are actually ambidextrous (they use both hands equally well). It is possible that the myth was started when people observed the bears working well with their left hands, but they neglected to notice that they also worked well with their right."

    http://listverse.com/2009/02/04/top-10-fascinating-facts-that-are-wrong/

    As for yawning...there's this:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ooling-our-brains-say-scientists-9356468.html
     
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  9. river

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    Not really MR .
     
  10. river

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    Carl Sagan was handcuffed by his position, publicly and his paper .
     
  11. river

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    In 1962 , Carl Sagan came out with a peer reviewed paper on ET. Funded by NASA at the time . It was surppressed .

    It was scientifically based . And Through .

    Carl and then ,NASA , understood the implications , hence , the " silence " of his paper .

    Sometimes things happen for a reason .
     
  12. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't understand hyperbole

    OK I can live with that

    Why light has its particular speed?

    Why not a few hundred klms slower or faster?

    Care to explain to Scientist why this is so?

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  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    That light has a constant speed doesn't make it an unexplained phenomenon. I suppose one could ask why to many things to make them appear mysterious. Why up to eight electrons in the 2nd shell? Why does water boil at 212 degrees F? Why do objects fall at 32 ft per second per second? Science is in the business of answering hows not whys.
     
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  14. river

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    True enough
     
  15. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    1966

    Intelligent Life in the Universe

    Carl Sagan, Iosif Shklovsky

    I own a first edition of this but have not read it yet...
     
  16. river

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    Time to read ...
     

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