Discussion in 'World Events' started by dbrey33, May 9, 2007.
because we are animals, and animals fight and kill.
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Wrong. It is the nature of idiotic morons to fight and kill. It is not in the nature of logical individuals to do so.
Logical individuals are aware that there is no practical purpose for war, violence, poverty, and anything of that sort. They are all pretty useless activities that idiots partake in, and should be abolished.
Meanwhile, those that claim my proposed fact to be fallacy, have yet to prove logically how allowing the existence of war/violence/poverty/etc is in any way shape or form a good idea.
im not wrong, we are animals and we fight because its natural animal nature to fight,
not because we are morons, so all animals are morons?
where did you get your facts from show me the source. please.
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You mean the London Underground isn't a revolutionary group? Damn!
ofcourse it is,
and ken livingstone is a god-send.
Great. Now I can sleep easily.
sleep as sound as ken when he is at his desk.
What you are proposing has no logical substance.
Logically, the existence of war/violence/poverty is either:
Choose one, and provide your logic.
thats not gonna fly here dilbert.
unless you produce me some evidence other than your almighty logic then it remains your opinion,
its your personal opinion untill you show some facts.
Of course it is not going to fly. You cannot even choose.
You are claiming that everybody believes that violence and killing is great, because it is in everybody's nature. Sorry. Wrong. State your assertion, and prove it with logic not sources.
when did i say great?
and you know that animals fight each other, the proof i will show you is going to be a documentary show about wildlife, most likely a show about chimps and there social circles. hold on while i go grab one,
Wow animals and chimps are fighting eachother. Can you be any more irrelevant?
We are not talking about whether some animals on that video are fighting eachother. Citing sources about animals fighting each other is not logical proof. I would hope people on this forum would start getting it by now.
What are you saying then? I see a bunch of examples, but no statement of fact.
First of all, post the exact assertion that you are trying to make. You cannot simply go babbling random stuff. Who cares about a video? Do you actually think that is proof that all humans like killing and violence? WTF?
As stated in the rules of debate that I keep handy on my links bar: http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=58531
Not all humans like violence and killing.
Here are a few points:
Pacifists do not like violence and killing.
There are people out there who hate violence and killing.
Giving a bunch of examples is not the same thing as stating a MAIN IDEA that the examples intend to support. Before spouting out a ton of examples try arranging for us a main idea that you consider to be a fact.
Here just copy and paste this, and write afterwards.
THIS IS MY PREMISE:
But with just one or two humans who do like violence, it fucks it up completely for those who don't.
And just a few violent bastards can wreck havoc upon the whole bunch of those pussy-pacifists. A gazillion pacifists with ten violent men would just fuck up your whole deal, wouldn't it? And as pacifists, they can't do anything to harm those violent bastards, can they.
Your premises ain't much, are they? Just totally unrealistic dreams.
not all humans like violence. i never said they did, im not saying its great, im saying its "natural" to fight, like its natural that rape happens, im not saying thats great either,
but you will have to deal with both, because they wont stop happening,
how would you stop a crazed man from harming you without violence? sometimes violence is needed, you cant say "excuse me mr serial killer want to sit down and talk about this over a cup of tea" while he is busy ripping out your guts,
"Can War Be Stopped?"
Isn't it ironic that many rightwing people who think that wars cannot/should not be stopped very successfully "stop" their participation in those wars, watching dumb/idealistic/nationalistic/patriotic...., mostly piss poor folks killing each other.
No, that's not irony. Think of a different, better word. It ain't irony.
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