Can stars be older than the universe ?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by timojin, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Who am I to judge? Someone who can read. I already gave you a link, but I'll humor you:

    https://home.cern/about/physics/early-universe
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    Ergo, for 380,000 years, there were no atoms.
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Is your point about stars seeming to predate the accepted age of the universe or something else?

    There are other mysteries like black holes, dark matter, dark energy...
     
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  5. Boris2 Valued Senior Member

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    If you look at the error bars on that star's age and those of the age of the Universe you will see they overlap.
     
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  7. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    So, what meaning have that to you
     
  8. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    So if there were not atoms , what kind of matter was it ?
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    You name it things in space are not very verifiably, because time and distances.
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Was that your argument all along?
     
  11. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Yes along those lines, there are a lot of speculation. What is dark matter ? dark energy ?
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    meh I've made posts out of anger too.
     
  13. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    So you admit you are simply trolling. Excellent - we know what to do with trolls

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    Read the link provided - maybe you will learn something...
     
  14. RADII Registered Member

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    It was incorrect. At the immediate beginning, it was a 'quark soup' [plasma] which lasted for some .01ms. After that, neutrons & protons began to condense out of the plasma. Nuclei didn't begin to form until 100 seconds in, then atoms began forming around 300K years in, followed by first generation stars @ around 300M years.http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2012/02/age_of_the_universe.jpeg

    You can't have any of your stuff until a lot later than you think.
     
  15. Boris2 Valued Senior Member

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    If the error bars overlap then there are three possibilities, two of which are more unlikely than the third.

    1)the stars are older than the Universe.
    2)the stars are the same age as the Universe
    3)the stars are younger than the Universe.
     
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    You missed the 4th possibility

    4) god still getting his shit together

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