Can Robots Make Ethical Decisions?

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  1. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    No you are right that I dont know what the whole program is in the case of humans. How ever a program at it's base is a set of instructions that allow for the handling of variables, that generate an outcome either wanted or unwanted. As for going against our inner programing lots of people do it every day. Thrill seekers suisdal people race car drivrs, all these types of people go against the internal programing of fight or flight self presurvation. That is known to be in a wide variety of animals and some plants by puting themselves into the situations they know can cause death and or injury.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That's an assumption since, as you have agreed;
    And since morality varies with culture and time it could be argued that what we call morality is most definitely NOT the underlying "programme".
    In some cultures anthropophagy is moral.
    At one time women showing an ankle was immoral.

    We simply do not know enough to determine what the actual "programme" is well enough to say that it's possible to go against it.
    Sure we can break society's rules, but they are purely a social construct.
     
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  5. raggamax Banned Banned

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    Morality is a relative term and differ from person to person.
    You can cause a robo to perform a moral action in the eyes of some. But face the fact its still deterministic programming. I really don't think it is possible to program consciousness of a soul into the robot. So no is probably my answer.
     
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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    What is a "soul".???
     
  8. raggamax Banned Banned

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    Who knows really?
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Why would you need to programme consciousness of a mythical thing into a robot?
    Do they need to be aware of unicorns as well, before we consider them capable of ethical decisions?
     
  10. raggamax Banned Banned

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    Shallow comment. This reminds me one of our discussion b4 when you said it is wrong to murder and kill people and rape women and I said lets do it. You seemed to support the notion of humanity. So what makes a living thing so special dum dum - a soul perhaps.
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Hardly shallow, perhaps it's your understanding of the question.
    There's no evidence for a soul. NONE.
     
  12. raggamax Banned Banned

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    Of course there isn't an evidence dum dum. But by the same logic it would mean that there isn't much difference between a living and a non living thing. So there is no reason for me not to rape and kill if I can get away with it. Right?
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Conscience?
    Sense of morals?
    Do try to learn what logic is, and how to apply it.

    Nothing at all to with living and non-living.
     
  14. raggamax Banned Banned

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    What an idiotic comment. From where does sense of morals and conscience comes from?
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Reported.
     
  16. raggamax Banned Banned

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    Hahaha. Go right ahead.
     
  17. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    What do you thank "consciousness" is.???
     
  18. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    Consciousness is self awareness if one is conscious then one must be self aware. It does not mean there is a soul no one has proven that as no one has proven the existence of a God being that is all knowing and all seeing. SO who could you program something that is intangible into a robot AI.
     
  19. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
    What is consciousness.???

    So you do thank that consciousness is supernatural.???
     
  20. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I thank both are products of evoluton... whare do you thank they com from.???
     
  21. raggamax Banned Banned

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    I can only explain this subjectively through analogy. I do no like to see others sad or hurt others. Why do you think that is ? I think this is caused by something transcendental best described by the intangible word "soul". I think this is the most important thing which separates me from non-living. This comes inbuilt in living organisms. I do not think it is possible to program it into a machine. If I was not possessed of it I would become an intellectually driven uncaring machine in an instant. So there is your answer.
     
  22. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    No it is not it is a state of being alive nothing to do with a supposed soul.
     
  23. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
    So you do thank that consciousness is supernatural.???

    Do you thank the state of bein alive is supernatural.???
     
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