Can dog do a sequence of orders?

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  1. Semon Howdy, hi and hello. Registered Senior Member

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    usually, I saw people ask their dog to "stay", "sit", 'hand" or whatover.
    I never saw people ask thier dog to do anything more complicated.
     
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  3. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I would not see why not. You force the dog into a sequence of "tricks" and as he learns this sequence, you assign a command word or phrase to it. Sit is just a sequence of moves in itself, no different than up or shake. Just put them together as one general sequence.
     
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  5. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Well I can tell my dogs to go find their bone or toy and they will. Or I can say go find your toy and give it to [insert name] and they will too, even if they have to go outside to find it and then go into another room to find the person.

    - N
     
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  7. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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  8. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    LOL. Wow. I was looking in a book I bought years ago titled "How Computer Programming Works" and they discuss that. Hilarious to me, anyway. Sorry.
     
  9. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    The problem would be finding/compiling a Logo interpreter that'll run on the dog architecture. Anyone familiar with the AMD K9 Assembly language?

    [Sorry - couldn't resist such an obvious wordplay

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  10. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    [sarcasm]Wow dude... that's hilarious.[/sarcasm]

    Actually it was.. lol.

    Not really.
     
  11. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    no?
    i seen a video of a dog walking up and down a flight of stairs on their hind legs.
    i seen a video of a dog riding (pedaling) a bicycle.
    both of those are alot more complex than 'sit' or 'rollover'
     
  12. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I guess a more appropriate question would be "how complex can a sequence of learnable moves be before a dog cannot learn anymore?"
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  14. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    That's awesome. I couldn't do that

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  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm maybe after your Seal training is done
     
  16. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Haha... perhaps

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  17. Possumking I think, I am? Registered Senior Member

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    I've seen dogs do some pretty complicated sequences on tv. But im not sure if you can jumble it up.

    Like telling your dog to "First shake, then Stay, then sit, then lie down, then turn in circles"

    and then doing it again but saying "first stay, then shake, then sit, then lie down, then bark, then turn in circles"
     
  18. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Basically, are they Turing complete?

    [Sorry again. Boredom, y'know?]
     
  19. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Wow you just won't stop.

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  20. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Well what else am I supposed to think of when I see:
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    It's asking for dumb comments...
     
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  23. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Dogs have no time sense. Anything that happened more than 27 seconds ago is just a jumble to them. That is why, for example, you have to actually catch your dog in the act of peeing on the floor before you can scold him for it and expect him to understand why. 27 seconds later he won't have any idea that there's a connection between that ancient puddle that is now part of the environment and your odd behavior. (I'm just making up the 27 seconds but it's just about that short.)

    Dogs can certainly be taught complicated sequences of actions, as long as there's a quick transition from one to the other. You teach him the transitions and then you put them all together.

    But the problem with following a sequence of orders is that by the time he's finished the first order, 27 seconds have passed. He won't see any connection between what you said to him 27 seconds ago and what he's supposed to do now. Even if he remembers all the things you said, he won't be able to put them in proper sequence after hearing you say them only once--27 seconds ago. Especially since every time you do this with him you change the sequence so it doesn't ever get a chance to imprint on his long-term memory.

    So no, you can't teach a dog to do a sequence of orders that is randomly sequenced every time he hears it. I doubt very much that he could even do all of them, much less in the right sequence.
     

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