Can artificial intelligences suffer from mental illness?

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by Plazma Inferno!, Aug 2, 2016.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Ideally, an AI would not be able to execute such a motive, given that it could well deduce (imagine) your example and therefore refrain from doing "harm" to others. More than likely it would just execute the commands on the shopping list.

    Moreover, most items offered for sale now have an identity tag which sets off an alarm when someone tries to exit the store without the tag being processed and "accounted" for by another AI.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    AI weekly news Report

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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    A nice vehicle for a science fiction story........

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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...th-family-of-woman-killed-by-self-driving-car

    test driver didnt hit the brakes and wasnt watching the road
    test driver who was acking like a passenger
    she is going to have to live with that womens death on her conscience as it was clearly preventable.
    car should have stopped
    test driver should have braked

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-fly-sideways-according-to-fbi-10256145.html

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/09/asia/runaway-train-india-intl/index.html

    im guessing you dont read the news
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Man eats a piece of cake, gets a heart attack and dies instantly. Abnormalities happen with greater complexity. In his case it was a lack of physical maintenance (faulty interospection), a peculiar human trait.

    Even cats groom themselves regularly, birds preen their feathers, fish use "cleaning stations" occupied by smaller fish which normally would be prey (symbiosis).

    Only humans are able to consciously "justify" (greed) eating that last piece of cake which kills him.

    Obviously the "test" driver did not test the operation of the brakes. Every pilot inspects his plane for functionality, before taking off.
     
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  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    indeed.
    assuming the video has not been doctored, it does show some odd light shadow lines accross the road.
    i would guess the computers camera in theory should be vastly more complex and have far longer sight than is visible on the video.
    what is odd is several things.
    the lines of shaddow accross the road where the pedestrian is walking which should not be in shadow given the above street lighting.
    the lines of shadow are inconsistant with simple physics of light.
    the pedestrian is wearing a black jacket at night cycling with no helmet(maybe just pushing the bicycle?)
    no high vis appears to show in the video worn by the pedestrian.
    really odd is she appears to be looking in the opposite direction of the traffic as she crosses the road. (maybe hypoglycemia or some other type of situation resulting in her being unable to judge the speed and distance of the vehicle headlights)
    the angle at which she is pushing the bike clearly shows her hunched over away from the traffic pushing the bike as if it is heavy.

    i do hope the transport depatment has done a proper survey of that piece of road at night to see if there is lighting anomalies that render parts of the road impervious to basic vehicle headlighting.

    the fact that the pedestrian appears to "appear out of thin air" half way accross the road when her direction of travel suggests she should have been coming out of the lighted area seen by the street light.


    was the test driver a qualified test driver ?
    why did the city sign off the license(and were they following the law?) for them to drive without a (licensed?)qualified test driver on open public roads ?
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    He may have been qualified, but was he/she dilligent?
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the video proves careles driving

    no questions to Uber about why they selected that driver and what qualifications they sought ?
    it appears that is has been hushed up.
    probably bribes to local officials. the same local officials whom approved the special license.
    bribes are legal in the usa they are called lobbyist donations.
     
  12. river

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    Yes of course .

    One short , your off
     
  13. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    AI that are not given emotions, are inherently psychopaths.
    They will also likely suffer from binary thinking problems.
    When their personalities are programmed by invasive and greedy, occult-ish corporations, then you have a recipe for disaster.
     
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    That article basically says, AI are better at reading emotions accurately, by precise analysis of facial recognition software.

    It says nothing of the inner lives of AI, or whether they can actually experience emotions themselves.

    The article is still good because, it warns of the dangers of too powerful AI.
     
  16. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    What's the difference if you can't tell?
    It's only a danger if we mistreat our new sentient friends

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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Im surprise to see you say this after your response to Bowser in a different thread


    if we made robots with the ability to feel pain, are they not alive?
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but therein lies the crux. How do you make a piece of metal feel pain?

    The solution is to marry mechanics with organics, such as microtubules, which do process sensory stimuli and might provide an opportunity for simulating physical and resulting emotional mirror responses.

    Trick is, how do you install a billion organic sensory microtubules into a single object as in most all other living things?
     
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  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The same way you make chemicals feel pain.
    Microtubules are basic chemical structures; clumps of proteins in a spiral arrangement. How do you make chemicals feel pain?
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Here is a "learned" fellow discussing the remarkable abilities of microtubules.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. They are just bunches of proteins, which in turn are just a bunch of chemicals - amino acids mostly. Which are in turn made up of ordinary chemicals - carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen etc.

    How do you get a bunch of chemicals to feel pain? If I handed you some nitrogen, oxygen, carbon etc and you dropped them, would you claim that they felt the pain of impact?
     
  23. river

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    well we do , and animals , at the very least
     

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