Can artificial intelligences suffer from mental illness?

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Up the voltage? Wattage?

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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Up the voltage? Wattage?

    Are you not anthropomorphising a QM computer well beyond the components of its construction?

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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    ^^^
    I missed the last somehow.
    I am guessing you just did not phrase that right but I want to be clear for others : A clone of me would not be me. 1 way or another, we would be 2 distinct persons.

    If I taught my clone, I would try my best to make them a better person than me. As with any child I may be responsible for, I would explain my mistakes & the bad things I did & why it would be good to try not to do those things. I would also explain good things I did & why they are good. I would try to give them earlier good inspiration & influence I did not get. Hopefully I would be a much better parent than my parents.

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  7. river

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    I define being alive as being adaptive as well . And the ability to procreate .

    True

    So what is their fuel source ?
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I am imagining what may someday be possible & how we will relate to & treat them if that possibility comes.

    I am at least partly doing the opposite of anthropomorphizing. I am saying that humans are organic machines running by programming & input & we should not assume superiority to or extreme differences from a sufficiently advanced AI.

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  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I do not necessarily include adaptive tho that would definitely be a positive. I certainly do not include procreation tho many do & perhaps they might procreate.

    Many humans are not adaptive as would be good for them.

    Presently, it is electricity & it seems it must always be but some new discovery or invention could change that. Maybe it will be mainly chemicals. Maybe food.

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  10. river

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    Electrical energy is their food .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Oh. a car might be able to sense that fuel is running low.
    Fuel gauges in cars show clearly the amount of fuel left in the tank, but the engine will continue to run until it runs out of fuel and just stops. It won't know the difference between a full tank and an empty tank.

    Until we can create an emotional need for the car to get more fuel for itself, it won't seek an energy supply, until it runs out of fuel, the engine stops, and the car dies (goes to sleep).
    Electricity. If it runs out of energy, it shuts down and assumes a sleep mode.

    IMO, hunger in living organisms starts when the body chemistry sends signals to the subconscious auto-control part of the brain that it's functional chemistry is becoming impaired due to lack of organic fuel and compels the conscious brain to seek food or even kill for it.

    This is why I introduced the "bio-chemical" aspect as part of an bio-organisms functional system.
     
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  12. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I nearly posted a link to a video then I think I recall a very short scene which may not be deemed appropriate. I might be a bit paranoid after a warning I received for a post in the joke thread.

    Hopefully it is OK to suggest googling youtube & Valerie 23 if interested.

    Also : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Robot_(1964_The_Outer_Limits)
    I do not find a video for this 1.

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  13. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    ^^^
    OK.

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    I do not get those signals. I have not felt hunger for many years.
    Did I stop being human?

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  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    But that would depend on a reward system, no? Pecking a specific set of keys results in a reward. The procedure is recorded in the mirror neural system, the part that is able to "imitate" a meaningful action.

    What reward can one offer an AI as reward for meaningful action?
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Agree. Never thought a clone would be the SAME

    I do think the clone would be primed (nature wise) to be like yourself

    The teaching you give your clone, with the ability to cherry pick (nurture) the best bits, hopefully would produce a upgraded "you"

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  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Have you been fasting all this time?
    Have you ever felt thirsty?
    During WWII, I have felt hunger and it is not pleasant, I can assure you. I used to steal apples and corn on the stalk from orchards and corn fields. Hey, I was hungry!!
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Not getting signals either
    • Sickness or
    • Always full

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  18. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    ^^^
    LOL I eat regularly.
    I am nearly always thirsty.
    I was nearly always hungry as a child.

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  19. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    ^^^
    I have illnesses but I stopped feeling hunger long before them. I am not always full. I eat probably nearly the same as I would if I felt hunger because I know I need to.

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  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    And if a sufficiently advanced AI was to produce a new biochemical lifeform
    A lifeform which is
    • Diseases resistant
    • Stronger (injury resistant)
    • Faster recovery
    • Sensory inputs greatly improved
    Do we bow out?

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  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Both are bio-chemical signals.
    a) Sickness; a bio-chemical experiential warning that something is wrong internally
    b) Fullness; a bio-chemical experiential feeling of satisfaction replacing the experience of hunger.
     
  22. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That would be ironic.
    1st, would that new life be sentient & intelligent?
    If so, why would it need humans to bow out?
    Of course, the vast majority of humans would not want to.
    Would the AIs need/want humans to bow out?

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  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Considering that humans are a result of some billions of years of evolution, I doubt that we can replicate anything like it in the near future.
    Moreover, your examples all require energy, and energy conservation is a prime directive.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_shrew
     

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