.CA, eh?

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  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    To get a canadian website, one must sign an agreement with the CIRA.

    Here's one of the clauses:

    "6.3 Cancellation within 30 Days. CIRA may, in its sole discretion and its sole option, cancel a Domain Name Registration for any reason whatsoever within 30 days after the date the Domain Name Registration is Activated with no liability of CIRA to the Registrant, the Registrant’s Registrar or any other Person by giving notice to the Registrant and the Registrant’s Registrar. "

    It's like... wtf? They can just do whatever they want with my domain names?

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    They can also "give" my information to third parties. All of it.

    I don't get it. They provide no benefits, but they have all this power?

    Maybe the internet is getting too regulated.....(?)
     
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  3. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    "CIRA Privacy Policy

    We, the Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) are dedicated to maintaining both a high standard of privacy and a high standard of data protection in all of our activities. We must balance that respect for the privacy rights of our customers, employees, and contractors with our public responsibilities in the administration of the Canadian country code top-level domain name (dot-ca). We also must consider the responsibility of ensuring that thorough security measures are in effect. This may involve verifying and testing assertions, practices, and the conduct of individuals and organizations and may have an impact on, or involve the use of, personal information. This policy, based on the standard required by the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act, (PIPEDA), namely the Canadian Standard CAN/CSA-Q-830, reflects CIRA's interpretation of these responsibilities. "

    Huumm... that's somewhat in conflict with the part they say they may give my information to any third party?

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    Eh...? :shrug:
     
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  5. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    Well, it is a business. Somebody has to own the DNS servers and the power to register domains.

    It's a shame that the Canadians do it this way, but what can you do?
     
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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Well, apparently there ARE a few benefits if you become a member....

    "Benefits of Being a CIRA Member
    Being a member of CIRA means you have certain privileges over dot-ca domain name holders who choose not to be a member. These privileges include:

    having a voice in how the Internet is governed in Canada,
    nominating yourself or an individual to be elected to CIRA’s Board of Directors,
    voting during elections for CIRA’s Board of Directors,
    voting on issues at CIRA’s Annual General Meeting,
    attending Special Members Meetings,
    participating in membership consultations and
    receiving thank you gifts at CIRA events. "
     
  8. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    I guess they have the right to regulate .ca domain names as much as you are free to choose another extension.

    What pisses me off is regulation of another sort. Why on Yahoo!, when I try to logon to LaunCASt to listen to internet radio, It automatically redirects me to Yahoo! Canada? I hate the fact that they make decisions on what sites you are allowed to access based on what country you are in (what country your ISP is in). The solution is to use a proxy server but that'll slow down your connection.
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I essentially chose the ca extension because there were no others available.
     
  10. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Reinstall your O/S(Windows XP) and pick "U.S" as your country.
     
  11. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    Why do you think that?
     
  12. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    not like the US counterparts are any different. They all hold the right to cancel a domain whenever and for whatever reason.

    The only thing holding them back from going crazy is that they are a business - if they cut down too many poles, there won't be anything left to hold the tent up.
     
  13. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    The reason for the Cancellation clause is in case a domain name is gained that uses a Brandname or Tradename and the company that has either of those registered decides to take legal action. Those companies that take legal action if they can't get to the author of the site, can attempt to persuade the Domain Registrar's that the site shouldn't be resolved with their Brandname/Tradename. The result being the termination of the domain name.

    The reason your Information can be given to a third party is mainly due to legal reasons again, for instance should someone attempt to claim the domain name that is rightfully your's for the duration of it's term, it can be easily disputed on the basis of who it's registered to. It's also a necessity to try and stop the misuse of domains for Piracy, Pornography and Spam.

    However there are some Registrars that allow you to fill in different Technical and Administration Details which are publically shown. Leaving the Registrant details to only exist on the Registrars database.
     
  14. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    It must be a good domain name if all the other extensions are taken...

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  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks Stryder.

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    I have just started to venture myself on this thing and am a bit caught by surprise by all the little technicalities....
     
  16. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    What's the domain you're trying to get? There aren't any available foreign extensions?

    Also, do you have to be a citizen of Canada to get a .ca domain?
     
  17. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    My wife and I own it.

    And I won't say it until it is trademarked...
     
  18. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    You don't have to be a citizen of a country to register the domain name. There are many TLD (Top-Level Domains) available other than just countries, however some of them were meant for specific things while others are more openly acceptable for everything else.

    Technically NOBODY owns a domain name, they merely License the name from the registrars so that nobody else can use that domain for the licensed period. It's made like this because of the trivialities of people owning names or words, can you imagine an internet were you couldn't mention the name of a site because some Trademark law didn't permit it?

    Just make sure that your "license" fee is automatically updated (with available funds) in the future, as if you get to the end of your term and you haven't enough to pay for a new period. The registrar can (if they haven't already stated otherwise) put the domain name back up for lease and this was where the original problems occurred, where people would swoop on peoples domain names and then try to charge them extortionate fee's to return it to them (essentially blackmailing them).

    For the majority of mainstream registrar's they will attempt to automatically renew your Term because of the above outdated problem.
     
  19. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    Is the content of a domain in a country's TLD subject to the laws of that country? Like, if I got a .cn domain (China) and posted content in favor of Falun Gong and the sovereignty of Tibet, and was very critical of Hu Jintao.
     
  20. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I won't need to worry about that for another 11 months...

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    Not really a problem...
     
  21. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    It can be. If of course they can't chase after you because of Extradition treaties not existing and/or because the government of the land in which you reside supports your freedom to exercise thought over being censored, then they'll likely just reclaim the domain name and move the IP from your server to their own propaganda matrix.

    Dealing with different countries is a messy affair, which is why so many sites that either put out trojans or deal with copyright theft are still accessible. (The laws in one country don't override the laws in another)
     
  22. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    The internet doesn't have the boundaries of a country. Hence, it only makes sense to have government sites that end with ".ca"...
     
  23. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Actually government sites have already been defined by .gov.

    This means the US government sites are:
    .gov
    (Although some people push for change, since the internet is not just the USA anymore. So they might eventually move to .gov.us )

    Canadian:
    .gov.ca

    English:
    .gov.uk

    etc
     
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