By LAW,should Spontaneous Human Combustion be mentioned in all reliable Medicalbooks?

So it's not really a friend you grew up with is it?

It's someone you only know from the internet.

But of course you believe her even though she hasn't given you a single verifiable detail.

That about right?

 

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A woman nearly crashed her car when her hands suddenly erupted into yellow flames, she quickly put them out though.

The second case, an old woman named Olga (in the 60s) was sleeping(?) in her guardian/carer's car. Her carer got out to go get something, moments later witnesses saw an explosion of flames. The engine wasn't running and nothing combustible was found in the car. She died 8 days later and said 'its too hot' when rescued.

Just curious of what the causes were for these two incidents. Again. logical, non-supernatural answers only.

The car was hardly burnt anywhere. Also, please explain the odd burns/smoking skin in some 'victims'. (I use that term loosely.)

The same case applies for Jaqualine Fritzmon in the 80s. (search her name, things will come up.) She felt ill and then people watched her errupt into flames. I shall award a 1,000,000 Dollar Prize to whoever answers and explains those fully. Because the FBI, Forensic 'Experts' 'Scientists' have not.

 

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So you refuse to answer the questions and just post more unsubstantiated BS?

Indeed, searching the internet simply turns up what appears to be you posting this BS everywhere.

Question, how long is it typically before administrators get tired of you and boot you off their forums?

 

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So a coroner's report, a TV Documentary and Newspaper coverage isn't 'credible'? Why are you so strong to dismiss it?

 

But you said it happened where she lived so where was that at?

 

She didn't say.

 

You have her Email or some way to communicate with her so just ask her.

 

Well you haven't linked to any of those things in this case.

Post the links and we'll see if it is credible.

 

For the woman in the car, search 'Olga spontaneous human combustion'
For the woman's hands the same thing, it's definitely on the internet somewhere.

I quote the coroner from the most recent case in Ireland, Michael Fharety in Galway. On 8 January 1985, in Widnes, Cheshire, a young girl called Jacqueline Fitzsimon caught fire for no reason at school after feeling pains in her back and she had felt ill. Within 5 minutes she was reduced to ash, noone could put the flames out. It's all there.

Another case too, but it's very vague. A man was in the kitchen making his wife something, she was watching movies in the other room, she heard an explosion and her husband was dead. Again, I don't know, but if anyone could even explain anything about the other cases, ESPECIALLY ones that had witnesses that always seem to be avoided by 'investigators' they deserve a million dollar award, something no scientist or Forensic expert has so far been able to accomplish with these cases. (most of them at least.)

 

LOL

“Faherty's case may not be as mysterious as it looks. There was, after all, an open fire close to his burned body. It seems likely that a spark or ember might have popped from the fire onto his clothing, and caught his clothing on fire.

So we are right back to WICKING as the far more likely answer.

 

Well done, but you didn't explain the case with Olga seen bursting into flames in her carer's car (remember, nothing combustible was found, the car wasn't burnt and it happened moments after her carer left the car.)

The so-called wick effect doesn't apply to eyewitness or survivor cases such as the one above. I wish some people could get that.

 

Do you know where the story originally comes from? Are there any official public records or anything?

Following it back to the source is the only way you'll be able to get any idea of it's veracity. And perhaps not even then.

If you don't do that you're basing your belief on whether other people believe it, which isn't reliable. It becomes less reliable the more dramatic the subject matter, to the point where things like people inexplicably erupting with flames would always be featured in stories just because of the basic facts of human nature, even before you consider whether they are actually happening.

 

Except nothing is to be found about this case except on internet sites promoting SHC and they all say the same thing, but none of them have any actual writings from the day.

If Olga actually spontaneously combusted on that day, one would expect that it would be an on-going story, carried in many newspapers and on TV.

No such supporting details appear to be found.

 

If this phenomina was so 'uncredible' or 'false' as you say it is, then it would've been debunked and the Forensic Experts would've concluded the cases were fake. It puzzles the best scientists and there ARE over 200+ Documented Cases of this all over the world. Who are you to question them?

PS: These cases still make worldwide news. They wouldn't do that if it weren't real or 'not credible'.

 

You can't debunk something that someone made up. There has to be something of substance to begin to question something.

You say 200+ cases and worldwide news, yet you provide no actual links to follow, and searching just brings up typical woowoo sites that of course support each other, but still have no original sources to back anything up.

It's like a car wreck. You know just to let the thread die, but you want to see how much sillier it can get.

 

A user on this thread gave a link to it on Wikipedia. Look it up. It states there were that many cases and even gives links of some notable examples. And it isn't silly, a thread on cancer must be silly to you too.

 

And when a coroner determines that someone dies of undetermined causes, that just means there wasn't enough evidence to support one reason or another. It doesn't mean that there's some mysterious phenomena going on. Just like UFOs, it's the same issue. But of course if you *want* to believe in these things, they suddenly look so convincing...and people who provide normal causes for them are such downers.

 

Here's your biggest problem. YOU look it up, show us where. It's your burden to provide this.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
and look at some examples.
Also, if you want something even better, SEARCH GOOGLE:
'Spontaneous Human Combustion eyewitness cases in more detail' (exact name of the article header, it provides 5 cases. So please look at both of those before coming back to insult me.)
The Article shall come straight up.

 

So where are these 200 documented cases?

Because I see you keep going back to the same few old cases

And you have YET to show any actual cases that you had any details on or weren't readily explainable.

Indeed nearly everything you claim just tracks back to ONE work and that's Larry Arnold's book Ablaze!: The Mysterious Fires of Spontaneous Human Combustion, a book which features a blurb from Maury Povich on its back cover. Paranormal investigator Joe Nickell refers to this work as Spontaneous Human Nonsense.

http://skepdic.com/shc.html

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/not-so-spontaneous_human_combustion/

http://curezone.com/forums/fmp.asp?i=106264