Hey Kunax...as for the link you provided on page 1 with the aid numbers... It takes 2nd place Japan and 3rd place France together to basically meet what the US gives away in aid. I think the "as percentage of GNP" is pretty much irrelevant. We give away more money than even 2nd place by 7 billion dollars and we still give much more than that to our people at home. I can't wait to read more....
Economists and the United Nations don't. I think there's a biblical parable along those lines too... the rich guy that gives the 100 golden coins, keeping thousands and the poor man that gives his only 1.
ItsMyTimeNow: Well how can i argue with that, I bow down to the might of the US. But since i like to have a commen thing to compare around and since you dont like GNP, lets try population. POP US : 293 million Norway : 4,5 million Luxembourg : 0,46 million AID(2003) in U.S. Dollars (Millions) US : 2,043 Norway : 15,791 Luxembourg : 189 see my point ? oh wait a minute did you think it was a contest ? did you read the small note on the bottom of the table? good for you, hopefully it will make you(the us) stronger, maybe enabling you to better help those in need.
We give away more money than even 2nd place by 7 billion dollars What makes you think you give it away? Benjamin F. Nelson, International Affairs Budget: Framework for Assessing Relevance, Priority and Efficiency, (Washington, DC: General Accounting Office, October 30, 1997) Much much more here. Dee Cee
dude thats what I said but he is still not perfect. But I think there are many great things about him his antiwar policys that he use to be a hippie and the he knocks bush out of the fucking water. I hate bush soooooo much don't worry I have not gone to the dark side. Kerry is going to get my vote for sure in this thread and I suggest anyone who can vote or fake their age to vote for kerry FUCK BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOT: rGEMINI, how old your friends are? :bugeye: OTT: I don't think Kerry is anti war, he won't withdraw US forces from Iraq anyways. But at least I don't think he's a warmongerer.
just out of curiosity, what exactly makes kerry any worse than any other contender (historically)? I keep hearing "kerry sucks but he's better than bush" but it's starting to sound like a mindless mantra to me, one of those things people say just because because others keep saying it. As someone from another country I admit my knowledge of kerry is thin but I have yet to run across anything that actually shows he has any deep character flaws or leadership problems. So whats the deal here? As I said, I'm just curious. Any details would be appreciated.
The whole flippy-floppy thing, the rebublicans are really good at pushing there propaganda just about everyone believes Kerry is a “flip-floper” including democrats, even so that’s a far better choice the an idiotic born-again christen that has stifled the economy, wasted hundreds of billions $ and thousands of lives on a useless war, and biggest agenda is to stop gay marriage.
Well, Kerry does flip-flop... sometimes he things it's a good idea to cut taxes, sometimes he doesn't... like in the middle of a war. Sometimes he even think it's O.K. to cut 'weapons systems' spending, like when the other superpower in the world collapses ...
Since when does irrational persistence a good thing? Hitler tried it in Stalingrad that surely didn't work. What makes us think it will work now? A decisive leader is an uneducated one, where's the debate?
Agree, I think changing your mind is a good quality not bad, I did not like though how Kerry step back and said that at the time he was wrong for him to say he committed war atrocities in Vietnam, he should have stood by that.
is that seriously it, "flip-flopping"? in otherwords, your candidate is being buried (more importantly buried by his own party) by nothing but vague innuendo? ... even with the solid disaster that is bush? For fuck sakes, in an international court he'd get the electric chair. It's like comparing a child stealing gum to chronic bank robber. If the dems lose this one you guys deserve what you get.
Remember how Gore was fuck by “I invented the internet” something he never actually said but the republicans brainwashed million into believing Gore was a total jack ass from that one imagined statement? “Wish-washy” will kill Kerry, that all they need they can rally behind catch phrases concepts and just ram it down millions of minds. Of course to be fair there was that whole thing about Bush being an idiot from the democrats, but for some reason the democrats are really bad at propaganda. Even so after the last 4 years, Bush has proven them right on at least incompetence if at all idiocy.
The one thing that bothers me the most about election are the people that decide whom to vote for based on television ads. The kind of people that come up to you and start a debate with "Kerry voted against bullet-proof vests for our troops." oooh, ignorance of that degree just drives me nuts.
WellCookedFetus, It's funny, gore was running through my mind as I wrote my last post. I learned something I find terrifying from that election, dems buy propaganda like it's ice-cream and the basis of it doesn't matter. I'd always considered the rep's as backward fools, it's ironic that "the smart guys" are the ones that ended up losing to a tissue of nonsense. I'd always suspected it was dem apathy not "loose chads" that lost you the race, if kerry goes down the same way?... like I said, you deserve it. Hell, bush has a bulls-eye on his chest, his legs are cut out from under him, he's drenched with gasoline and about to light a smoke. Hate the reps but if you lose this one, it can only be your fault... bush is on life-support.
