Bush...Mexico...jobs...immigration...connect the dots.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Undecided, Jan 7, 2004.

  1. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    From my experience, the Mexicans have greater social/family values and better work ethic than most Americans. Although their intelligence is pretty poor considering the poverty they live in.
     
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  3. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    So, you are to have us believe that intelligence is proportional to affluence?

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  5. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    Alright, fine, I'll say what I really think: Mexicans are unintelligent because they are an inferior race. So says the Bell Curve.

    Money influences education. To have money is to have the power to gain proper teaching materials.
     
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  7. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    They are coming to California to get their wealth and teaching materials and upgrade their inferiority, so clearly darwinism is heading in the right direction for the mexicans, I think you should applaud this.

    Also given the higher standard of living in the usa you would expect MUCH higher average IQ for american people than the Bell statistics show and as some mexicans after two years in the us can speak better english than the american president, i just wonder if you extrapolate valid conclusions from these statistics.....
     
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  8. Let's see, as stone-age people they built several civilizations; Olmec, Teotihuacán, Maya, Zapotec, Mixtec, Toltec, & Aztec. They developed art, poetry, philosophy, mathematics (including the concept of zero), agriculture, writing (Maya, Zapotec & Aztec), & astronomy. Then these diseased, gold-crazed, genocidal, cold-blooded gun-toting killers came over from the Eastern Hemisphere; which decimated the indigenous population base, because they had no immunity to these strange diseases & weapons. What Mexico needs is another revolution to get rid of all these European-based scions that rob the people of any hope, land, resources, laws, & traditions. Yep, the only thing inferior is; the system that keeps them in power & that keeps the Mexican people enslaved.
    http://www.indians.org/welker/aztec.htm
    http://cybersleuth-kids.com/sleuth/History/Ancient_Civilizations/Mayans/
    http://www.jaguar-sun.com/default.htm

    If you mean the book, then you are viewing flawed evidence.
    http://www.skeptic.com/03.3.fm-sternberg-interview.html
    http://www.srv.net/~msdata/bell.html
    http://www.apa.org/journals/bell.html
    http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/irp/featured/bellcurv.htm#3

    Not a bell curve, but a pyramid, where money influences everything.

    BTW, if you are kidding, it's not funny
     
  9. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks Randolfo!! this was very interesting and down right called for!!

    It is sad that the "Pendejo gringo" always considers people south of the border uneducated and ignorant. If that was so, why are so many gringos going south of the border for surgical operations with Mexican donctors? Have any of you experienced the level of care in a Mexican Hospital? the attention given is something that makes the US look cruel, cold, and down right Uncaring!!. I know this by experience!!

    Godless.
     
  10. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you for the info, but I was being sarcastic. It is hard to tell what people really mean over the internet.


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  11. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    Funny thing is, these Mexican civilizations were diseased, gold-crazed, genocidal, cold-blooded killers (without guns). They did the exact same things to other tribes and societies. Thank you for your transparent argument. For the rest I would agree with: much of the problems in Mexico are due directly to corporations and the such.

    http://aztlan.net/
     
  12. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    YKJ, I take it your link to La Voz de Aztlan, is also a sarcasm ?

    They are even more ultraracial/nationalist oriented than KKK, but certain articles are written with flair (if you put their obsession with jews aside I actually liked the articles about the Anthrax coverups at fort Detrick) . Ultimately they believe that the mexicans are surpressed by the gringos but also the gringos are just sorta ignorant instruments in the hands of the zionists, so they consider them the root of all evil and every story on that site centers around that.

    Oh, and new yorkers might wanna go skiing in Aspen for a while

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    http://aztlan.net/nynuked.htm
     
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  13. And what diseases might you be talking about? Tuberculosis, smallpox, measles, typhus, yellow fever? Those are all Old World diseases, introduced shortly after 1492. Syphilis, unknown origin, unless you have some up-dated info on STD’s, Mr. Intelligence Analyst? “Flower Wars” for sacrifice, yep, about 100,000 Mixtecs sacrificed in 1491 by the Mexicas; Xipe Totec’s annual flayed skin & priests soaked in blood, yep, filth indeed.

    BTW, where are you getting your facts, are you reading them in 'National Geographic' or 'National Inquirer'? Need sources here.

    So Mr. Anderson, are you saying that your pagan ancestors were more clean, virtuous, saintly, humble, squeamish, non-diseased, less greedy, less war-like, and less blood-thirsty, than mine? Prove it!

    Here’s a little reading material, just to get you started:

    http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~alford/guns_germs_steel.html
    http://dannyreviews.com/h/Guns_Germs_Steel.html
    http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/diamond/diamond_p3.html
    http://nativenet.uthscsa.edu/alison-thesis/disease.html
    http://www.usd.edu/~archlab/paleopics/congen1.html
    http://www.hughpearman.com/articles4/aztec.html
     
  14. What? you mean it's not true?
     
  15. Good, BTW, thanks for the URL
     
  16. dagr8n8 Registered Senior Member

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    i think that this law is fucking bull shit it jsut lets the mexicans come to the united states, they are in my town now picking fruit. thye have no problem with that but we have to make this better for them they are fine!! this is bvull shi all prices are going ot go up because of the minum wage. i thave a higher iq than bush i know soem one that went to harvord with him and his iq was something liek 93 or 98... that is below avridge (100 is avridge). they come have kids and take advantidge of are system that the taxes are going down there kids go to our schools and croud them up my mom words in a hiigh mexican district and she has over 52 kids in her room, they pay no taxes ... why do we let them in. all the do is have kids and dont care fo there kids. my moms school bought one poor mexican child a wheel chair and there parrents sold it because "she dosent need to beable ot move she can lie on the carpet.. we have a wagon she can be pulled ot school in...." what kind of people aer we letting into are country. this is fucken bull shit, i did not hate bush that much befor this happend but now i really fucken hate him.

    All they do is come adn take advantidge or are system bringin it lower and lower every day.

    then you have to think what good dose this do to the united states ...? nothing all it dose is let the mexicans so we can have a lower povverty rate and we can pay for there fod stamps with are tax payers money ??? this makes no seince to me i really am oposed to this law.

    in 2003 the stistic was that there would be 51% mexicans out of the entier unitedstats in 2008... i dont think of my self as a rasict one of my best friends is mexican, but i dont think we should let any one in. all i know is the mexicans are not going to pay the taxes and we are goign to end up aapying for them when we alerdy are havein problems with not enuf money for are school myschool nextream is not going to be a "cridet school" because of 2 many kids per class, not enuf school days.. if i want to go ot collage im kinda scruded lol
    thats my ten cents

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  17. Undecided Banned Banned

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    thats my ten cents

    I suggest you use word....
     
  18. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Hey! yea it was a challenge to read throuhg that one!.

    Godless.
     
  19. Umm, I did use Word to translate this, & I would suggest that you take your time in writing some of your opinions. Because some people will dismiss them out of hand, just because it appears you are illiterate. Remember, this is a forum, not a video game, you're not relaying messages to your comrades on Medal of Honor, etc. So take your time.

    So, I would like to say that I see at least 4 problems that dagr8n8 is complaining about;

    1) feels that Bush does not have the interests of the middle-class in mind
    2) feels that Mexicans don't pay there way in US society
    3) feels that Mexicans will be a majority in the US soon &
    4) feels that he will not get a chance to go to college because of accreditation at his HS.

    Well let me answer you here as best I can:

    1) Bush & most Republicans do not have the best interests of the middle-class, they only support the elites, like all the Yalies & Harvardoids that they went to school with. Most of their ideas support the rich, some ideas are meant for moral values; such as crime, defense & anti-abortion, but on the whole, unless you are a Rockefeller, a Bush or even a Kennedy, you will never see the benefits that they describe, it's all trickle down from the top down,
    2) true, unless you are legally here, it's hard to buy a house, go to college & move up, but ask yourself, why are there so many Mexicans here? Because people are willing to hire them, pay minimum wages, get rip-off profits form them. You want to end this? Start sending those that hire undocumented workers to federal prison for 10 years at a time, no parole. See if that fixes the problem when Wal-Mart execs go to Leavenworth.
    3) true, but why did no one stop this in the 70's when people started noticing this phenomenon? what did the farmers do? they hired contractors to find them cheap labor, so that they could bypass unions like the UFW, check out California ag practices &
    4) you need to hold the farm & ranch owners responsible, they bring in cheap labor, they get all the benefits, they don't pay for schools, health care, housing, roads, so taxpayers pick up the tab, & you get a lousy education.

    Like Gephardt said, "If you want to live like a Republican, vote Democratic".
    Think about it.
     
  20. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Gephardt also said that the successful people in the U.S. were the "Winners of life's lottery", so if you want to quote Gephardt, be prepared to take the good with the bad.

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  21. find the real quote, I think he meant that rich people had won the lottery of life already. and as everybody should know, any lottery is unfair, n=nn-1. everyone works for them, employees, elected offificials, lobbyists, etc
     
  22. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, I'm trying to catch my breathe, but still laughing at your response.

    A few questions:

    How is a lottery unfair? I buy a ticket. That's my choice. It has a number. Also my choice, or I can buy a quick pick. Either way, my choice. At the prescribed time a random number is generated. If my number matches that number, I WIN!!!!!!! If not, I don't. What is unfair about that?

    As far is Gephardt, I know the original quote. I posted it. To compare a persons economic well-being to a lottery is completely assinine. You talk about "rich people". How many rich people do you know? Are any of them actually responsible for their own economic success? If so, how is that amenable to winning the lottery?

    Your envy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in, it's an ugly thing.
     
  23. Good, I hope you didn't pee on yourself

    its an analogy dummy, the math is n=n n-1 for any number of choices n, n= n to the power of n-1, so just for picking one number out of 50, it would be 50 to the power of 50-1 or 50 to the 49 power, that’s a bigger long shot than 15 of 19. should be 1,7764 followed by 83 zeros. That's the odds, next time you feel lucky

    And where did you get it? Some oldRuthless chronwatch site? Find the source in a real newspaper or journal, browse this: "Winners of life's lottery" & see if you can find the original quote?

    yes, baby Bush, Ford, Rockefeller, you have a 15 in 19 chance to be the next baby Gates

    for the 15 of 19 times, it’s an analogy, yes I know some rich people, but I don't travel with Kennedys, Rockefellers or Bush's, so I only know the regular folks rich, not the super rich. I don't think they were the people that Gephardt was talking about, maybe the Bushes, Fords, etc.?

    Thanks, I'll be sure to take your advise on social etiquette, thanks Amy Post, you are so helpful!
     

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