Building a Pc...Power vs Price.

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  1. intriguingmoose Registered Member

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    I am currently building my on pc. I want it to be an extreme gaming machine. As you know the latest Nvidia is the Geforce 7800 512mb. I know the power would be unbelievable but would the price really be worth it. I am looking to be able to run all the latest games on full graphics. But 750$ for a graphic card. I still dont know if it would be worth it. Also the processor. I am looking to get an amd. I looked at their latest the Amd 57 fx. Of course this would beat the shit out of anything I threw at it. But is it worth it, would only a 4200+ dual core be better. PLEASE tell me what parts to buy to get a good gaming machine. The power supply, I am not sure if I need more then 600 volts. Also the cooling, fans or liquid. I know liquid is dangerous to mess with because if one drop spills it will fry the whole motherboard. But this would let my pc overclock like cracy.
    Thanks..
    -Moose
    P.S. Alienware sucks.
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i know this, if you put 600 volts to a computer you won't be playing games on it long.
     
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  5. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I think he meant 600 WATTS
     
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  7. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    My entire PC was less than 750$ including 19" LCD.
     
  8. intriguingmoose Registered Member

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    Ya 600 watts. Thats what I meant. But either way that isnt answering my general question.
     
  9. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    The general answer is: if you have the money and you can easily spare it buy whatever you want.

    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1885984,00.asp
     
  10. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    If you're wanting to shell out over a grand for a FX-57, I'd wait two months for when the FX-60 comes out which is a dual-core FX chip which'll be the same price as that one FX-57 is now. Also by then, the new line of graphics cards will be out to drop the price of the current 7800 GTX 512MB, unless you want the new card that'll blow even that one outta the water.

    And yes, I'd personally just get an X2 4400+ (has double the cache of the 4200+) and then overclock it 200mhz which'll be better than the FX series. The beauty of overclocking is that you can save yourself a few hundred bucks while having the same power, or sometimes even more. That's why it's always best to be a generation behind computer technology because the price is SO much more cost efficient and you can have the same power as all the expensive stuff for such a killer deal.

    It's also not like you really need 100+ frames per second in a game when 40-80 is just fine. Technology comes out faster than games do to take advantage of new hardware it so it's usually overkill with the exception of a game or two. Most just take an engine of an older game to make their new game so it's still using old stuff for new technology. No need to have a killer rig on a game not so demanding.

    Ah, computer technology; so much fun trying to have the latest and greatest only to be bested a few months later..

    - N
     
  11. Mephura Applesauce, bitch... Valued Senior Member

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    Fx's have the proc clock multiplier unlocked.
    If you are looking to overclock, this gives an added avenue to play with.
    If that is what you are interested in, wait until a new batch comes out with a higher core clock and a lower multiplier, then up it. or get a 55 and bump it up.
    The 57 is a 200mhz clock with a 14 multi and the 55 is the same clock with a 13 multi.
    Just get a mobo with a bios that gives you control on timing values and such and you should be fine. Will save you some cash too.

    As for the debate between the duel core and the fx: The fx still handles gaming better. If you are doing a lot of multitasking or multimedia, go with the duel.

    I'd go with the fx-55, overclock it, and save the cash. Then you can upgrade to a duel later if you want. they both run on socket 939.

    Edit:
    I've done a little looking around, and there have been many stable over clocks of the 55 reported of up to 3.0 Ghz. (and they are about 200 dollars less than the 57 right now.)
     
  12. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    get a good cooler and you can clock up a AMD 64bit 3700 to fx57 speed. my brother has his clocked to fx55 speed and it runs at 30degC with a full load, its just a matter of making sure your motherboard isnt going to fuck it with the voltages.
     
  13. Pi-Sudoku Slightly extreme Registered Senior Member

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    Just get plenty of RAM

    2 GB of DDR2 533Mhz should do
     
  14. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Haven't seen the latest benchmarks for the X2 4800, have you? It ties and even bests the FX-57 in some of the latest games such as Quake 4. This is why I can't wait for the dual-core FX-60 to come out. :drool:

    - N
     
  15. Mephura Applesauce, bitch... Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, I have seen benchmarks. And more benchmarks. And more benchmarks.
    A duel fx chip would be the shit though.
     
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