Personally I think the ban was unfair. The same rules should to apply to everyone in the same manner, regardless of whether you're a mod or just a mere member. Some mods have been as guilty as the members of flaming, abuse and obscenities. If you punish one, then you should punish all in the same way, regardless of whether they're a mod or member. If you stuff up then you should face the consequence of your actions. If a mod participates in another forum aside from the one they moderate they are but a mere participant, therefore they should come under the same rules that apply to the rest of the members. Turning a blind eye to unfair practices only breeds further contempt. We members are expected to behave, so isn't it only fair that the mods also fall under that same expectation? We're all guilty of flaming and carrying on and I think the banning vote and warnings and sanctions are a great idea. But it would only really work if they applied to everyone in the same way. Porf we all really like this place and it's proven in the fact that we continually post here. All we're asking is the rules to apply to everyone in the same way. We are all aware that the decision is ultimately yours to make as you were the one to create all this and now get to see it in its madness. But the fact of the matter is that we are all part of that madness. And the same should apply to the notion of voting. To be fair, all should have the right to vote, be they moderators or members. After all, the moderators also take part in the discussions which occur in this forum, so in that they should be allowed to vote just as much as we members are allowed to vote. There I've had my say. While it's all probably bull, that is my opinion.