Please quote where I said "Two causes in two environments can never produce the same result..." I'll make it easy for you: My comment was that such a statement is false. It was, in fact, you who said it: So, right "out of the gate" we have you knowingly, willfully, and intentionally lying. My my, not a good start laddie. I never said two different organisms become the same organism - in fact, my example was specifically on how two different organism in two different areas, subject to similar stimulus, evolve along parallel paths. Do try to keep up Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I would say, try to keep up, but you're falling all over your own face right out the gate. Aye, I do - I merely wanted to remove your ability to squirm out of the truth by attempting to redefine the question - thanks Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! What is your claim in regards to "his reference to his real brain", then. That the consciousness is not aware of its physical brain? In other words, you have no argument, and are arguing simply for the sake of hearing yourself talk, as you have answered your own question. Don't flatter yourself - you were never even a player Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!